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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Michael Marra

Okay.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Michael Marra

Part of the question that we have asked about the children’s commissioner has been about the fact that, although it has existed for 21 years, in my view, there is little evidence of its having advanced outcomes for children. Child poverty is getting worse, educational attainment is getting worse and there is a national mental health crisis. We are no further forward in realising the rights that we might say that children are entitled to, despite the public money that has been spent on the commissioner and what has been a growing commission. I have no problem with the people who have been the commissioner or the people who work there. My issue is the principled issue of where we spend the money.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Michael Marra

The Scottish Fiscal Commission has said that the projected deficit for this financial year is £1 billion, rising to £1.9 billion in 2027-28. There is a significant mismatch between the Government’s plan, as set out, and the budget that is available to deliver it. The plan can be delivered only through very significant cuts. Are you concerned about value for money from having to deal with significant in-year variance in that way?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Michael Marra

You are reported as having written to the then First Minister in August last year saying that there were “affordability risks associated” with his programme for government. A series of meetings took place about the commitments that the then First Minister had set out, which were clearly unaffordable to the country, but you received only one ministerial direction. We are moving towards a £1.9 billion gap between proposed policies and the money that is available. Should we have confidence that you are running this process properly with regard to the affordability of government?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Michael Marra

I recognise that the problem is complex. I am talking about the cost and the difference between the two figures—instead of the cost being £1.2 billion over five years, it would have been £3.9 billion over 10 years, and the committee prevented the public purse from being exposed to that. That is a dramatic variance. It must worry you, as the head of the civil service, that your organisation produced those figures and then had to come back to tell us that they were egregiously wrong.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Michael Marra

Dr Elliott, do you have any thoughts on that fine difference?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Michael Marra

I would appreciate it if you could do that.

I have a final question. In your conversations with the new First Minister, has he agreed not to delete WhatsApp messages?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Michael Marra

To date, he has given no assurance to you that he will change his behaviour from the way in which we has acted previously.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Michael Marra

My point does not apply only to 2022-23. We are talking about long-term plans. In essence, we are talking about landing a jumbo jet on a stamp, but the jumbo jet was headed for Cape Town and had to land in Paris.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Michael Marra

How many ministerial directions have you had regarding the budget process?