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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

But the head count was going up. At a point when £35 million of savings had been allocated in the budget, the head count was increasing. Mr McGeorge, what do you think of the decisions to continue to recruit more and more people?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

The finance team. Who would have been responsible for it at that stage?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Sorry—I meant to say “July 2024”; we are not quite at July 2025 yet. I think the principal would still be saying that now, however, if he had not been caught.

I turn to the issue of the cash position; we might come back to the recruitment side. The Gillies report directly identifies the huge amounts of on-going expenditure. In our evidence session today, you have said that the finance team was underresourced. Instead, you had a massive expansion in the number of academics. Did you not make the case that your finance function needed more resource to ensure that you had a resilient organisation, whereas you were employing hundreds of additional academics?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Did you not make the case to say that there was underresourcing of that capacity, of which we have seen clear evidence today?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

You did not. However, you were on the UEG, and you continued to sanction massive expenditure across the whole organisation.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

When did you take that advice?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

At the meeting of court on 12 November, a note was issued to say, please—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

You were surprised. So, you thought that £40 million was theoretically ring fenced and suddenly you were surprised that it was gone, despite the fact that you were the person who was sanctioning the expenditure on the kind of capital programmes that Peter Fotheringham spoke about. Is it a surprise to you, Mr Fotheringham, that Jim McGeorge did not realise that £40 million had disappeared?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

It sounds like you did. A big part of this is the rapid deterioration of the cash position that has left the university exposed so that it cannot make the kind of manoeuvres that other institutions can make. For example, the University of Aberdeen is in perhaps the second or third round of voluntary severances, whereas the University of Dundee was not in a position to do that; it had no money to do so due to the rapid expenditure of that money. Mr Fotheringham, were you not sounding alarms about the expenditure side of this when you could see that the cash position was deteriorating so rapidly?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

During that period of time, management accounts were not presented to the UEG in periods 9, 10 and 11. Is there any justification for those missing accounts? Mr Fotheringham, was that before, during or after your period of employment?