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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Michael Marra
Are you saying that it is a job that people do not want to do because it is too difficult? Not to put too fine a point on it, is that why we ended up with you?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Michael Marra
On a more detailed point, at what point were you told or did you realise that the Exscientia money—£40 million—had been spent?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Michael Marra
We heard in yesterday’s session—again, as you would know if you had listened to it—from several members who gave an account of the long-term strategic challenges of the institution. There is the imbalance between research and teaching income, which I think that you would acknowledge—you have acknowledged in part, in your evidence today, the challenges over a period of time. Is it not right that you bet the future of the whole university, and the city, on rapid and continued growth?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Michael Marra
Universities UK issued a report at the start of 2024 saying that that was not going to be the case. Two major reports were published that sent warning signals about the international recruitment market. Do you recognise that?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Michael Marra
The Gillies review says:
“Court was briefed orally by the Principal on the state of financial health of the sector and routinely and confidently advised that Dundee was ‘bucking the trend’ and doing better than most.”
Why did you think that you were immune to an international situation?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Michael Marra
And you did not say, at any point, “I think that sounds a bit optimistic, given that the currency in Nigeria has lost 70 per cent of its value—I think we should be looking at that again.”
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Michael Marra
However, it did not happen, Professor Gillespie. You were the leader of an institution that was in existential crisis where, clearly, the costs had got completely out of control. As we have heard in the reports, spending was completely out of control. The income that you were already seeing was collapsing and you could not deliver a voluntary severance scheme. You could not push that through the organisation. Why not?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Michael Marra
I think that there is—
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Michael Marra
It was a hubristic narrative, I think.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Michael Marra
Were you betrayed?