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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Michael Marra

Just you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Michael Marra

I thank committee members for their interest in this issue. I know that it is of strategic national importance, but it is of absolutely vital importance to my city of Dundee.

I have been struck by what feels to me to be a complete lack of urgency in the answers so far. The answers to Willie Rennie’s questions suggested something that feels like a potentially cataclysmic result for the city if the university is closed.

You found out about the issue in full in November but you had been aware of problems for months prior to that and only now are we seeing a recovery plan. It is fair to say that the response to that plan has been pretty hostile, and understandably so, given the scale of the harm that it will do to the city. The Government has been pretty clear that it is not happy with the plan, and the Scottish Funding Council does not seem to be happy with it either. What is the timetable? When will some form of revised proposal be produced and when will we see it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Michael Marra

The Government has said the situation is unacceptable—I think that that is the word that has been bandied around in the chamber. Have there been any other suggestions from the Government or the SFC so far?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Michael Marra

What would they be?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Michael Marra

A phasing approach will cost more money. That will be the challenge. Has there been an indication from the Government and the SFC that more money will be available to provide phasing?

Is that a nod? Please can you verbalise your answer?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Michael Marra

Is the Government saying that there is going to be any restrictions on, for instance, the £15 million and £10 million that have been announced for liquidity funding? There has been a bit of confusion about whether that money will all go to the University of Dundee. Let us just say that it will, because I think that that is the understanding. Am I right?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Michael Marra

Within the next two weeks.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Michael Marra

Why not?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Michael Marra

You have seen the terms of reference as drafted at the moment. Do they say that evidence will be taken from those individuals?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Michael Marra

Okay. We have had a lot of questions about what has happened and how we got here today, but I have been particularly focused on what is happening next, because I think that this is an incredibly urgent issue for the city. Indeed, I think that that was set out at the start of the meeting.

Earlier, Tricia Bey said that you worked only on the basis of the information that you were given. I am not sure what the salaries of the senior executives are, but they will certainly be well into six figures. You do not need a six-figure salary to know that the Nigerian currency collapsed in 2023; you just need a subscription to The Economist. It is public information. The value of the Nigerian currency dropped by 70 per cent. Why did senior executives not say, “These figures are completely undeliverable”? In 2022-23, 1,300 students at the University of Dundee were Nigerian. It was utterly apparent that those people were not coming. My question, then, for the executives and, perhaps, for Tricia Bey, too, is this: why were those questions not asked?