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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 April 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

When will we see a return to a more acceptable timeframe for people to get some kind of estimate of what the benefits from their pension will be?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

A constituent of mine told me that they recently made the same inquiry having spent 10 years teaching in England, and they received—18 months out from retirement—an estimate within 45 minutes. You have been keen to lean on a comparison with the rest of the UK, but we are not seeing that lack of performance in other parts of the UK. Is there a justification for that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

You said previously that you want to see that timeframe increase as the burden of the McCloud remedy reduces. That seemed to be what you were indicating.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Michael Marra

The six months might grow. Frances Graham identified the aspiration within five years at a strategic level. What do you think is acceptable? Where do you want us to get to within the next two years?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Michael Marra

For the record, I begin by echoing Liz Smith’s comments due to my involvement in the Eljamel inquiry. In a similar way, I have presented my own evidence to the inquiry.

Given your statements today, Deputy First Minister, is the cost of £258.8 million too high?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Michael Marra

However, in the end, these are Government decisions. As much as we can talk about it, and you are right to highlight the very legitimate concerns of people externally making the case, in the end, it is the Government that decides to have an inquiry and not to use the alternative processes. Therefore, the issue is really not about ignorance on the part of the public; it is a decision that has been taken by the Government, and it appoints the person who leads the inquiry. These are Government decisions, are they not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Michael Marra

On your point about pace, we are five years on from the Covid inquiry, and two interim modules have been produced. You cannot really be satisfied with the pace of response if we are trying to learn lessons about a global pandemic, given that we might have another one in a month’s time.

The convener mentioned Covid inquiries elsewhere. The Covid inquiry in Australia was completed within two years, with a full set of recommendations. A pandemic could happen again, and we have already heard that 23,000 lives were lost during the Covid pandemic as a result of the suboptimal—to say the least—response from the Government. Surely the inquiry should happen an awful lot quicker so that we can learn lessons quickly. The system that we are using is not meeting the public need.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Michael Marra

John Sturrock KC told the committee that

“the conduct of public inquiries and the possibility that costs are out of control is another example of a more fundamental problem in Scotland—namely that our approach to decision making, complex issues, negotiation and addressing tough issues is suboptimal.”—[Official Report, Finance and Public Administration Committee, 17 June 2025; c 32.]

Would you care to reflect on that assessment of the Government’s approach?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Michael Marra

Sorry—those were your words.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 25 November 2025

Michael Marra

We should not have two different judges, across a period of years, learning how to book rooms and what IT systems to put in, should we? That is ridiculous.