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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 January 2022
Michael Marra
That is great. I am sure that the committee would appreciate hearing about some of that work in writing in the coming months, as it develops, perhaps along with the programme of discussions that you might be having on that with the Scottish Government and colleagues. It would be good for the committee to receive that.
Given the time, I will now move on to my substantive line of questioning. The committee has repeatedly heard about a lack of overall analysis of the impact of the pandemic, particularly the differential impact—an analysis of who has suffered the most and who requires the most intervention. Following the return to school in the current period, do the witnesses have any reflections on that differential impact—on who has suffered the most?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 January 2022
Michael Marra
I ask Margaret Wilson to comment about representations that she might have been having about different groups who have been affected disproportionately.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 January 2022
Michael Marra
Thank you, Margaret.
Greg Dempster and Margaret Wilson have both mentioned issues of deprivation. Is that experience shared by you and your members, Douglas Hutchison, and have any other groups been disproportionately impacted?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 January 2022
Michael Marra
I do not feel that we are getting anywhere with that issue, but I am sure that we will come back to it on another occasion.
I want to ask about another issue, which relates reasonably closely to my previous questions. On 17 November, I raised the issue of missing pupils or learners. Our first analysis of the figures showed that about one in 100 young people—about 6,900 kids across Scotland—are not attending school any more. Yesterday, I heard that the Children’s Commissioner for England is launching an inquiry into children who are not attending school post-pandemic. What are the witnesses’ experiences of that issue? How closely are you looking at it? Do you have any evidence on it? Should we be concerned about it, as I am?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 January 2022
Michael Marra
I think that we would take that on board, Greg. Margaret, can I come to you now?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 19 January 2022
Michael Marra
Thank you. Does Greg Dempster have any insight?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Michael Marra
I am sorry, cabinet secretary, but we cannot hear you.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Michael Marra
There is a broad logic to that. You mentioned the international experience and the learning that has been lost, so I can understand that.
The budget was published on 9 December. Given the long-term concerns that you had had, what detailed representations did you make to the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and the Economy with regard to dealing with the impact on attainment of what had happened in our schools and the absence of learning? What resources did you ask for regarding the initiatives that you were putting in place? What argument were you making to colleagues to ensure that we could deal with the impacts?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Michael Marra
But there is no more money per year.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 12 January 2022
Michael Marra
Cabinet secretary, you have already acknowledged to the committee that that investment will take us back to the number of teachers that we had in 2008, if we can reach that. That is not even as many teachers as your Government first took on in 2007. The challenge that we face now is the greatest that we have ever faced.
We have very limited statistical evidence so far. I would like to see an awful lot more. Time and again, we have called for a focus on evidence. My question is how proportionate your response has been to the scale of the challenge. It does not seem to me as though, in your discussions with the finance secretary, you have been able to make or win the argument for more resource or for a more proportionate response to the challenge. Is that fair? The draft budget is a repetition of previous plans that do not really take into account the scale of the challenge that we face.