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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 February 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Michael Marra

Is there any reason why the figure for exemption levels in Scotland should be different from those in the rest of the UK? Do you want us to take on board the different character of the sector here, meaning that a different signal of viability should be sent?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Michael Marra

Does the approach lack sensitivity to that regional variation? We have heard that the system in England will be constituted differently, with more local authority input into levels and so on, whereas there will be a national approach here.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Michael Marra

I want to pick up on a point made by Josie Sclater. You will have heard the my earlier discussion and the concerns that I expressed about the polluter-pays principle and the language that is used in that respect, given that many building contractors are not polluters in that sense. It is not just those people.

You said that it is in the sector’s interest to build good homes. The Grenfell report made it quite clear that there was systematic dishonesty in the sector and not only manufacturer but corporate culpability in some respects. For example, the principal contractor came in for very heavy criticism about a lack of concern for fire safety.

Therefore, there is a body of evidence showing that parts of the sector have done the wrong thing. I have concerns about some of those things, and the fact is that many people lost their lives as a result. I just want to put on record that there is an issue with some of the language that is used, but we must be clear that there has been a problem in the sector. Do you accept that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Michael Marra

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Michael Marra

That is useful.

On the point about the net zero and housing underspend, that is not a this-year thing; every year, there is significant underspend in different areas of demand-led schemes. That has been the case for quite a while. Have you challenged colleagues who are running those portfolios about whether they are making accurate forecasts of actual demand?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Michael Marra

Is there no concern about that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Michael Marra

Hazel Johnson, do you have concerns about regional variation and viability?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Michael Marra

So there is a cumulative effect, and it is quite obvious that there will be tipping points where we move beyond viability.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Michael Marra

We will chat about that next week. Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Michael Marra

My questions are about similar areas. To start, where in those figures can we see your agenda for public service reform?