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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 October 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Michael Marra

Mr Drummond?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Michael Marra

The convener has highlighted an event that affected all five and a half million of us in profound ways, and the issue of how to garner the information. However, we are trying to use the same process for the Covid inquiry as we are for the tragic circumstances that happened one afternoon in Kirkcaldy and which involved about 20 people. That inquiry has been going on for six years now. Are we not trying to have a one-size-fits-all legislative approach to incredibly different things, and is that not partly why we are coming up against these challenges?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Michael Marra

From your evidence, it is clear that your practice is focused on that kind of interaction with victims, particularly in relation to cases of service failure.

You mentioned bricks-and-mortar inquiries. Are there other categories that you can think of into which any of the current public inquiries and the plethora of public inquiries that we have had over the past decade might fall?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Michael Marra

What is stopping people from using them?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Michael Marra

I am broadly supportive of the direction of travel, but, Mr Henderson, you say in your submission that it is a polluter-pays principle. It strikes me that the people who made the pollution are not the people who are paying here. In many circumstances, it will be people who have changed practice and who are building responsibly. None of that dismisses the fact that we need money to do the retrofitting to ensure that we can do the remediation in the buildings.

Is it fair to say that there is not really a polluter-pays principle at the heart of the design of the tax? Is it really just a way of getting money to do something that needs to be done?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Michael Marra

Valid comparisons have been made with the rest of the UK in relation to building regulations, and the culture and politics around all of that. In the rest of the UK, 5,190 buildings have been identified, remediation work has started on 2,490 and, of those, work on 1,767 has been completed. Do you have any idea why there is such a difference—between two and 1,767?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Michael Marra

Could you explain the disparity in the figures? It is good that you have cross-border expertise, but could you explain why there is a difference in the number of projects that are being undertaken and the completion rate?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Michael Marra

It would be useful to the committee, because we have talked about hypothecation—the purpose of the tax. This is really a tax to raise money to do this work. We want that work to be done, so it is good for us to be able to understand the barriers to that work being completed.

I put on the record my involvement in the Grenfell inquiry, through the Leverhulme research centre for forensic science.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Public Inquiries (Cost-effectiveness)

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Michael Marra

That is useful.

My closing point is that you have set quite a lot of store in your evidence about people campaigning for justice through the process and winning a public inquiry. That involves gaining impetus for change and justice, but we see a pattern in which recommendations are forthcoming many years after the initial events when some of that impetus has perhaps dissipated, because Governments face no real pressure to follow through and deliver on the recommendations that have been made. Do you worry about the lack of implementation of recommendations, and are the delay in time and the dissipation of impetus part of the problem?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting) [Draft]

Reducing Drug Deaths and Tackling Problem Drug Use

Meeting date: 2 October 2025

Michael Marra

Okay. You also said that you felt there had been a decline in medical emergencies of late, and I think that you referred to the shift into cocaine. Can you set out in a little bit more detail for us why that would be the case?