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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Michael Marra
I am sorry, but we did not catch the start of that. Can you start again, Professor Flinders?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Michael Marra
The points that you have all made about accountability provoke some questions about the role of private sector consultancy companies, which all Governments in the United Kingdom involve in policy advice and policy development. Do you have any reflections on the role that you have seen those organisations play and on how they are involved in the decision-making process?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Michael Marra
Thank you, convener—I mean, thank you, Mr Mason. I am the convener. [Laughter.] I thank all our witnesses for joining us and taking the time to speak to the committee today. Your evidence has been invaluable.
With the committee’s agreement, we will rejig the agenda slightly and move to item 4 now, which we will take in private. We will then reconvene in public to take evidence from the minister at 11 am. Do members agree to do that?
Members indicated agreement.
10:42 Meeting continued in private.Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Michael Marra
On a point of clarity, will the updated memorandum take account of pay inflation, and will there be some reference to the increased demands?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Michael Marra
The memorandum as it stands appears to indicate that the calculations for social work resource are based on a social worker working 35 hours a week for 52 weeks a year. Will that formula be rejigged following the criticism that came from COSLA and Social Work Scotland?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Michael Marra
That is reassuring.
I have a final point of clarification. The memorandum recognises demand for aftercare but does not allocate any resource for it. Will you be looking again at that?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Michael Marra
Of course.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Michael Marra
That is good.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Michael Marra
No, it is not. I will pursue that point. The Good Shepherd Centre gave evidence to the Parliament that Scotland has been turning to England “to ensure sustainability”. That is based on the fact that people pay above the rates that are referenced in the Scotland Excel frameworks that Mr McNamara has just mentioned. However, the minister’s stated intention is to reduce the number of people who are paying above that rate. Therefore, how will the sector maintain the sustainability if that revenue is removed, minister?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Michael Marra
So, there is no intention at the moment to revisit the Scotland Excel framework in terms of the costs that are paid.
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