The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
All Official Reports of meetings in the Debating Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.
All Official Reports of public meetings of committees.
Displaying 2160 contributions
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 February 2024
Michael Marra
The Promise, as part of what is established in Scotland, is certainly part of the prevailing policy discourse that I am describing.
I move on to finances, which are closely attached to the cross-border issue. In the Finance and Public Administration Committee and this committee, the Parliament has heard evidence that our secure accommodation services are incredibly dependent on cross-border placements to keep the lights on. It is placements from England that allow those services to continue to operate. The Good Shepherd Centre said that Scotland has been turning to England “to ensure sustainability”. St Mary’s Kenmure said:
“Without that income subsidy, no service for Scottish children would exist.”—[Official Report, Education, Children and Young People Committee, 29 March 2023; c12.]
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
Michael Marra
But the bill identifies that what is delivered locally is the core problem and at the heart of this. To be fair, you said that local people—or local authorities and the NHS—recognise that change is needed. That is why we had IJBs and, before that, change funds. Those issues were recognised by the institutions, yet we are still in the position in which, if you have two competing sets of priorities with voting rights on one board, the money cannot flow to the strategic objective. You are not proposing anything in the bill to solve that.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
Michael Marra
We were told on Tuesday that the board could do things such as workforce planning. Why can civil servants not help ministers to do workforce planning at the moment?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
Michael Marra
Would the national care board replace those 170 civil servants? You have civil servants sitting next to you, so I am not asking you to chuck people out the door, but you suggest that that is where that money will come from.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
Michael Marra
Will you explain that, then? It is a little bit confusing, given the evidence that we received on Tuesday. The figure of £3.9 billion, frankly, came as a great surprise to the whole committee.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
Michael Marra
We will wait and see.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
Michael Marra
That is a significant workforce, which could be addressing these concerns and helping you to deal with issues.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
Michael Marra
You said earlier that the change in the delivery timetable, which the convener questioned you about, was to reflect the challenges of a fiscal environment in which we must demonstrate value for money. When did it become apparent to you that we were in a situation in which there are fiscal challenges?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
Michael Marra
Perhaps it helps. The issue is that, on Tuesday, you just introduced that figure into the public debate by saying that it was one that you had previously had but then rejected.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 25 January 2024
Michael Marra
Mr Flannigan, on Tuesday I asked you:
“Do you mean that, if the committee had signed off the original FM, we would potentially have been looking at a bill of £3.9 billion?”—[Official Report, Finance and Public Administration Committee, 23 January 2024; c 25.]
Your response was yes.