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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Michael Marra

Yes, with particular reference to social workers’ working conditions in relation to pensions and whether that has been factored into the financial calculations.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Michael Marra

I found all of those answers to be useful, particularly Ms Colvin’s description of things. The timing of the bill is a concern, given the national crisis in social care and the huge issues with staffing and paying for that service. Indeed, it is one of the main causes of the disaster that we are seeing unfold in our national health service with regard to delayed discharge. Surely we are not intending, at this point in time, to drop children’s services—services for the most vulnerable young people—into that maelstrom of a crisis. From the evidence that we have received so far, it is quite clear that people are concerned about the risk of children’s services being lost in a care service that is dealing with that crisis.

As my question is about children, I would like to hear from Clare Haughey first.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Michael Marra

I have just a short question for Ms Haughey. How many children’s social workers are you proposing to move to the national care service?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Michael Marra

What about the social workers?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Michael Marra

But it is not an answer to my question, which was about the number of social workers who will be transferred. I think that the answer is that you do not know.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Michael Marra

My question for Mr Stewart was on the specific area of kinship care. In essence, how many kinship care payments would need to be levelled up to a higher level and how much would that cost? The answer is that we do not know.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Michael Marra

Could he provide those figures to the committee?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Michael Marra

That is helpful.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Michael Marra

I might briefly return to the issue of resourcing.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Michael Marra

Minister, please—I think that it should be a simple question to answer.