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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Michael Marra

On 18 December 2022, the Deputy First Minister, John Swinney, issued his budget circular to COSLA; on 18 January 2023, cabinet secretary, you were in front of us, giving details of the budget; and, on 1 February, you wrote a letter to COSLA, saying that you would be ring fencing one third of its net revenue budget and demanding that it get back to you by 5 pm to say how it was going to deal with that and whether or not it would be accepting that. What changed your mind between your appearance here and your letter of 1 February?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Michael Marra

You have talked a little bit about the structures for accountability to ministers, and you seem to be saying that they are working and that this is the most effective way in which they can work. We have also talked about the policy regime. You will recognise the scale of the failure. Some estimates talk about 4,000 young people a year requiring action, and we heard in previous evidence that it could be up to 800,000 young people. People tell us that they are falling off a cliff or that they feel as though they are going into an abyss. They are half as likely to be employed: 44.4 per cent of them are economically inactive against the average of 16.1 per cent. Those statistics are really stark.

How long will you persist with the approach that you are taking before you decide that something different needs to happen? Previous evidence said that a year would be enough to evaluate that. Do you agree?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Michael Marra

My question was about how long it will take.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Michael Marra

You have already said that, cabinet secretary; you are repeating your first answer. I want to try to understand how you moved within that period. You cannot think that the situation is optimal and desirable. There is chaos in councils following the decision to take a third of the entirety of their budgeting options. We could have a discussion about whether we think that that is a good thing for teacher numbers, but councils are left having to make massive cuts in other areas.

I will give one example. Dundee City Council is about to cut its funding for Big Noise Douglas in Dundee, which is an education programme that works with kids in the most impoverished area. The council has been left in that position in which it is making that cut. Is that a reasonable position for you to have put it in with just days to go before it sets its budget?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Michael Marra

I wonder whether Louise Storie has any comments on that, almost from an external view.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Michael Marra

Is that though a school-college partnership programme?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Michael Marra

Do you have any indication of how many young people who seek to access college defer entry owing to a lack of support being in place?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Michael Marra

Does Universities Scotland have that information? I have been told that a significant problem for young people who are trying to make the transition that we are talking about is a lack of the type of support package that they require.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Michael Marra

That would be useful.

Reflecting on school-college partnerships, I understand that the challenges for universities around acceptance points are being explored. Do universities run that kind of programme as part of a school-university partnership for children with disabilities?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Disabled Children and Young People (Transitions to Adulthood) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 February 2023

Michael Marra

There is no real longer-term plan for students with disabilities. It sounds as though there is a real rush, in the period that is identified in the written evidence that colleagues have explored with you, to address the issues of application within a very contained timescale. Are you constrained by capacity, not in dealing with that process but in dealing with students with complex needs?