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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Dr McGeorge, how do you react to that? Your director of finance thought—or just assumed, perhaps—that you would know that from an examination of the accounts. What was your reaction when you found out that £40 million had gone and that you had spent it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Sorry, Dr McGeorge, but you were in charge of the departments that actually ran those projects. The director of estates reported to you at that point. No money was going out of there that you were not responsible for. Did you just think that there was an infinite pot of money?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Who decided to make up the shortfall in the Tay cities deal project that had grown the biomedical cluster, Dr McGeorge? Whose decision was that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

It went to the court. Was that on the recommendation of the UEG?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

How did that happen?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Hold on. We are not talking about addressing the situation; we are talking about covering it up. It was being said, at that point, that there was no problem, or that there was a very limited problem, and a paper was presented that said that everything was fine. Something then happened in that couple of weeks that meant that it became clear that the game was up. Is that not right?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Is that what is covered in the Shepherd and Wedderburn report?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

There was a significant challenge at that point, and you decided that the thing to do was not to present management accounts in periods 9, 10 and 11. That was the thing that would save you time.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Amanda Millar, what were your strategic priorities as chair of court across your time in office?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Michael Marra

Professor Gillies is quite clear that that simply did not happen. Even since your departure, the culture of secrecy, which I think is represented in the report and which we have heard about, persists. No papers are released ahead of time. The Ernst & Young letter, which the committee has been sent, was displayed on a screen at court, rather than provided to people more generally. Was that not a failing on your part, as the chair, to ensure the timeous provision of the right information to your court members?