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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 February 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I will bring in Charlie Pound to answer the technical point.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

No, I did not directly look at that aspect. However, I spoke to survivors and victims, and they felt that my bill was the right thing to do. If somebody has committed that crime, we need to ensure that the right punishment and monitoring are in place—which, to be honest, would be the case with any bill.

10:15  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Sorry, convener, can I mention some other evidence? “The Independent Strategic Review of Funding and Commissioning of Violence Against Women and Girls Services” identified that there is currently a lack of

“disaggregated intersectional data and research with minoritised groups”.

It also highlighted that the current lack of a core data set

“hinders”

the ability of public bodies

“to undertake a range of work such as local needs assessments”.

I want to put it on the record that a review has already identified the lack of data.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Ailidh Callander has made it clear that there is a statement on that in one of the documents. I do not type the documents—

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

We need to see the outcome of the Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill, which is being debated in the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, of which I am a member. We will take note of any amendments that are passed. At the moment, as Ailidh Callander has said, we are not being prescriptive about what the education programme should be—the bill is high level in that respect.

We need to see what that legislation brings, but if any change needs to be made, we will be happy to make it. The non-Government bills unit puts that stuff together, not me, as I am sure the member knows. It has put in that information and we are happy to send it to Ms Forbes if she requires it.

11:00  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I mentioned earlier that I have had the privilege of speaking to a majority of women’s aid organisations. The committee has also received a lot of responses to the call for views. I am not going to comment on what Marsha Scott said and whether she was speaking for herself or on behalf of Scottish Women’s Aid.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

My understanding of MAPPA is that the approach concerns the three categories that I mentioned at the beginning—sex offenders, certain violent offenders and those offenders who are considered to be continuing risks to the public.

As I said, there are people who have committed not only sex offences but also other offences, which could be domestic abuse offences—as you know, there is no stand-alone domestic abuse offence and we do not even know the stats.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

Yes, but I was giving evidence on where things are working and where they are not. I have been sitting here for more than 50 minutes, and I have been grilled on quite a lot of the questions—which is absolutely right; I should be scrutinised. When I say that we should give the bill a chance, I mean that I think that that must considered along with all the information that I have provided.

I do not believe for one minute—I also answered this earlier on—that part 1 of my bill would duplicate anything. It would complement the systems that are already in place. It would also ensure that people would not fall through the gaps and that we would not just sit there, assuming that those people had been monitored in some way or other. My bill would have concrete provisions to ensure that those people would be monitored.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I mentioned earlier that my proposed bill was published more than three years ago. The Scottish Government was fully aware that I was working on the data stuff as part of it. During those three years, things have moved on, but the Government still has not published the type of information that was set out in my original proposal, nor has it done anything about it. Victims and charities want action now. The bill would achieve that rather than us having to wait for the Scottish Government to keep a promise that it made more than three years ago. Such simple information could make a massive difference, so it is important that we put it in statute now and we do not have to wait to see what the Government will or will not do.

The Government’s work would complement the bill. At least, I hope that it would—I have no idea what the Government is doing, because the information is not in the public domain. However, we cannot wait—as we have done for more than three years now—for such important data. People with disabilities and those from ethnic backgrounds want the information, help and services today.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Dr Pam Gosal MBE

I will come back to that, Ms Clark, but if it would be helpful I can certainly email the committee with information about some of the good programmes that are going on in East Dunbartonshire and those that involve other organisations, which you asked about earlier.