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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 July 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament

Primary Care

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Paul O'Kane

I would like to make some progress, if the cabinet secretary does not mind, because I am conscious of time.

The NHS is the Labour Party’s proudest achievement. It has transformed the health of our nation and is envied across the world for its defining principle of providing healthcare that is free at the point of use. However, this week, it has been revealed that the possibility of creating a two-tier healthcare system through privatisation has been explored under the watch of the cabinet secretary. This week, the First Minister and the cabinet secretary scrambled to state that they do not support any shift toward privatising the NHS, and SNP back benchers and members were scrambling to add BBC journalists to the list of things that are to blame for the current state of the NHS in Scotland. However, perhaps we should not be surprised by what we heard this week, because the SNP has form on this. Indeed, in his book “Grasping the Thistle”, the current SNP president and former MSP, Mike Russell, who was appointed to the Cabinet by Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon, said:

“We would encourage the private sector to compete with established NHS, hospitals, clinics and other services. We would encourage NHS management and staff to buy out existing NHS facilities and services under favourable financial terms and join the private sector.”

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Paul O'Kane

To ask the Scottish Government what the reduction in funding for Covid recovery will be as part of the emergency budget review. (S6O-01576)

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul O'Kane

I will pick up on Dr Meechan’s point about what is said in the bill and in the policy memorandum. Concerns have been raised that much of this will be dealt with in secondary legislation and that the bill does not provide clarity on what process will be used to gather the data and develop the platform. Dr Meechan referred to the enormous amount of data that would have to be managed.

Do the witnesses have concerns about the issue being dealt with in secondary legislation?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul O'Kane

I will explore the notion of social work being within the scope of the NCS. That was not included in the Feeley report. What are your thoughts on why it was not? What is the potential impact of transferring those services into the national care service?

I will start with Suzanne McGuinness, if that is possible.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul O'Kane

Yes. I am going to come on to talk about what a separation might look like. However, if, as envisaged, we were to transfer criminal justice services, for example, what impact do you think that would have?

11:45  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul O'Kane

I want to return to the point about the fragmentation of the social work profession. We have heard, and I hear, from social workers a real concern that, if we take social workers out of the local authority context, we will run the risk, particularly in children and family services, that there will be a real disconnect from education, which has a role within child protection as well, and that the link with teams around the child will be lost. Do people recognise that that is a significant risk?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul O'Kane

Is the timescale realistic? I think that the intention is that the national care service should exist by the end of the parliamentary session. We have heard that there are big challenges with being able to deliver it, not least around whether the data is available, what the infrastructure will look like and how we will upskill people.

My question has two parts. First, is the timescale for implementation realistic? Secondly, are there concerns about the cost? I heard that being mentioned. We will come on to questions about finance, but are there concerns about how much delivery could cost? Beth Lawton, could you answer that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul O'Kane

Good morning to the panel members. I want to focus on the idea of having a single electronic record for health and social care. That has come up time and again, not only in our scrutiny of the bill but more broadly in our work, including in many of our inquiries. Many people feel that having a single record is important, particularly so that people do not have to repeat their stories and explain their issues time and again.

What are your views on the benefits or otherwise of having a single electronic record? Is there sufficient data in the system to deliver such a record?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul O'Kane

Sure. I presume that the Care Inspectorate pointed to those services not being included in the Feeley report. Kevin, will you comment on that?

Meeting of the Parliament

First Minister’s Question Time

Meeting date: 17 November 2022

Paul O'Kane

On Sunday, international teams will begin to compete for the biggest prize in world football, but they will do so in a state that denies the rights of LGBT+ people, suppresses the rights of women and has demonstrated quite clearly that it has no regard for the lives or wellbeing of migrant workers. Only a few weeks ago, Qatar’s world cup ambassador branded being gay as “damage in the mind”.

Senior figures of the Scottish Football Association will be attending world cup events on the day the tournament kicks off. LGBT+ people, many of whom are passionate football fans, our allies in stands across the country, the tartan army, the Scottish Trades Union Congress and Zander Murray of Gala Fairydean Rovers, of whom I think we should all be immensely proud, have voiced concern and disapproval about this world cup and have called on the SFA to think again.

The SFA has said that it is

“supportive of all measures to improve human rights conditions in Qatar”,

but does the First Minister believe that members of our football governing body attending this world cup can send any other message than a validation of the human rights record of Qatar, and what message does she think that it sends to LGBT+ people, in particular, in Scotland?