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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 July 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Katy Clark

Are complainers not given the information on the majority?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Katy Clark

Is it your understanding that the Crown and the defence agents are not provided with that information either? We can obviously take up that point with them.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Katy Clark

My question is similar to Fulton MacGregor’s, as I want to pick up on what Sandy Brindley said earlier about wrongful acquittals. The Scottish Government is proposing to offset any impact on conviction rates that might be caused by the abolition of the not proven verdict. That is, it would address the balance between convictions and acquittals by changing jury size. Do you accept that that would have the result that there is likely to be no change, given that you have just said that only a handful of cases would be affected? Would the change in jury size offset the abolition of the verdict in the way that the Scottish Government suggests?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Katy Clark

I will follow up on that. You referred to the mock jury study, but we have been trying to look at the evidence for what the Scottish Government is proposing. One of our initial questions many months ago was about the data. We wanted to get an understanding of what kind of jury results we get at the moment. To what extent are they unanimous? To what extent are they very narrow results in favour of conviction or acquittal? Do you have any data or impressions about how clear outcomes are on juries? What data—either hard data or impressions—do you have?

Meeting of the Parliament

Portfolio Question Time

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Katy Clark

According to the recent report “Firestorm: A Report into the Future of the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service”, more than 90 per cent of firefighters said that they were concerned about the impact of contaminants on their health. Firefighters said that they had inadequate changes of uniform, laundry facilities and showering facilities to decontaminate and, as Sandesh Gulhane said, that they have to rely on baby wipes to try to clean themselves after being exposed to a fire for hours. Does the Scottish Government think that that is acceptable?

Meeting of the Parliament

Decision Time

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Katy Clark

On a point of order, I would have voted yes.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Katy Clark

Surely the point is that the council would do work to inform decisions on eligibility. Would that not add to the policy process?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Katy Clark

Surely the lesson that we have learned from previous experience is that, if we do not start the work soon and do it as quickly as possible, we end up taking on the schemes that already exist for extended periods. Surely we now have an opportunity. Whether it is an advisory group or a council—whatever we call it—we should surely try to implement as soon as possible a body that would do the work to inform the policy approach. What is the timeline?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Employment Injuries Advisory Council Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Katy Clark

Let us presume that the consultation says that work needs to be done to inform a new benefit. What would the cabinet secretary’s timescale be for her stakeholder advisory group? How quickly will that work start?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Delivering Scottish Social Security

Meeting date: 30 November 2023

Katy Clark

I am asking about what lessons you think have been learned over the past few years, so that we better migrate benefits in future to provide a quicker process to get to what might be a better outcome.