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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 July 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I declare an interest as a practising NHS GP.

Perhaps I can start by asking Sarah Wallage a question that I asked the last panel. I asked it because I was approached by somebody working in an abortion service who said to me that she and other members of staff she knows of have been put off calling the police because they do not want their names to be out there and associated regularly with complaining. Do you recognise that as a potential issue?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Absolutely. However, if somebody turns up with a placard—let us say that there is no CCTV—and you need witnesses, could it be that it is the department that makes the complaint and the witnesses only come forward to further the case?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Okay. Thank you.

I suppose that your answers to the final question that I would like to ask will be subjective, seeing as we have not passed the bill yet. In your opinion, will the bill, in the way in which it is written, provide women and staff who attend abortion clinics with the protections that it intends to provide? If not, what would you like to see added or taken away?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I declare an interest as a practising NHS GP and, particularly pertinently at this meeting, as a member of the RCGP.

I have basically the same question for Colin Poolman and Chris Provan. Colin, your submission says:

“RCN Scotland supports the intention behind the Bill.”

Do you support the bill as it is written?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

We can pick that up with the panel, too. Chris Provan, your submission says:

“RCGP Scotland agrees with the purpose of the proposed Bill”.

So, I ask you the same question: do you agree with the bill as it is worded?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Just for the record, let us say that I want to go and protest outside an NHS Tayside building about the Professor Eljamel case and all the things that have been happening and say that that is unacceptable. I would be breaching a 200m zone, obviously, because I would be trying to get as close to the hospital as I could. Are you absolutely happy that that protest would not in any way fall under this bill?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

I imagine that I would have a sign about Eljamel.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Would it be possible for you to write to us with some ways of wording that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Thank you.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee 5 March 2024

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2024

Dr Sandesh Gulhane

Absolutely. The bill includes the 200m zone, and it includes what happens in people’s own residences. I would like to hear the witnesses’ opinions about the decision to say what people can and cannot do in their homes, given that we are talking about banning of picketing and of using pictures of fetuses in the street, for example. It seems to be sensible to include that, but my understanding is that the bill would be the only such legislation that includes people’s homes or private residences. What is your opinion of that?