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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 2 April 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Thank you for those responses. I have probably exhausted that line of questioning, so I will move on to data sharing.
The cabinet secretary will be aware that, in some situations, including in the pilot in the north-east on widening access to universities, data sharing has been an issue. Some witnesses have said in evidence to the committee that the pilot would not be scalable because of some of the data-sharing concerns. Does the cabinet secretary think that a unique learner number could be part of the solution to that?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 2 April 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Does the cabinet secretary accept that the United Kingdom budget provided the largest budget settlement for the Scottish Government since devolution? People watching will be wondering: if not now, in these circumstances, when?
10:00Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 2 April 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Good morning, cabinet secretary and officials. Thank you for joining us.
There is no doubt that people watching today will be disappointed that, although the Government came into office in 2021 having promised in its manifesto to provide free school meals for children in primaries 1 to 7, the committee is being asked to accept the fact that the Government has failed to meet that commitment and to accept, instead, a second-best option. Does the cabinet secretary agree?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 2 April 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
The issue is not so much about the pilot and its scalability at this point, as the pilot is still on-going. The point is that, during the process, organisations said that one of the issues that would always make the work difficult to do, even if the pilot was found to be good and useful, was that there is not an ease of data sharing.
We are trying to get a commitment from the cabinet secretary. We have previously been under the impression that the Government was considering the idea of a unique learner number. That was for a number of reasons, not least in the light of the Hayward review and in relation to the issue that we are discussing today. That is why I have raised the matter today, when we are talking about data sharing.
To be really clear, can the cabinet secretary confirm that the Government will now engage the Information Commissioner in considering whether a unique learner number would potentially be something that it could bring in, for data sharing and for other purposes?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 2 April 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Sorry, but I am finding this a little bit frustrating. I am not talking about any action that the Government takes on this being contingent on the learning from the pilot. In the discussion that the committee had, it was put to us that the ULN could be one solution not only in relation to the pilot in the north-east but in other areas, including in relation to what Hayward suggested in the review.
The minister said, “We have looked at it, but we cannot do it, but we are not sure why we cannot do it”—I have to say that he was not all that clear—but now, the Information Commissioner’s Office has said that the Government has not discussed the matter with it. I am trying to get some recognition of that and to give the Government an opportunity to say that it will now consider the suggestion, given that there was some acceptance from the minister that it might be useful. In fact, the Minister for Children, Young People and The Promise also said that.
This is an opportunity for the Government to say that it will look at the matter and will engage with the Information Commissioner’s Office, regardless of what happens with the pilot. The pilot could be helpful in that regard, but pursuing the ULN issue is not necessarily contingent on the pilot.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 2 April 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
We received a letter from the Information Commissioner’s Office, which said:
“The committee should note that we have not, to date, had any discussions with the Scottish Government, local authorities or institutions on how data can be shared fairly and proportionately to support widening access to university ... Nor have we had any engagement with the Scottish Government on the Data Protection considerations associated with establishing an identifier like the ULN.”
I was surprised to read that, given the undertakings that we have had about the Government’s willingness to consider a unique learner number. Will you now engage with an open mind with a view to progressing that?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 2 April 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
That is helpful—thank you. You mentioned that a couple of the cases that you have looked at were settled so they did not necessarily change policy or strategically change the picture. Will you tell us a bit on the record about what you were concerned about and what you saw happening?
12:15Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 2 April 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Are you able to share that sifting tool with the committee, or would that be difficult?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 2 April 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Thank you.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 2 April 2025
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Does anyone else on the panel have anything to add on that before I ask my final question?