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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 29 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Would the minister accept that more needs to be done for pupils with additional support needs, regardless of whether the bill is passed?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Forgive me. I was asking about outdoor learning in general.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

In the information that we got in advance of today’s meeting, we heard that Disclosure Scotland had used a range of communications channels to provide information about the new requirements. We have heard about the timescale that has already passed. What has that communication and engagement been doing?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Finally, do you think that the on-going work that you have highlighted is the be-all and end-all in this regard?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is okay, convener. I have a couple of questions. Thank you for answering our questions so far, minister.

I want to go back to the numbers of people who are in regulated roles but not in the scheme. In particular, what financial impact has there been for organisations in helping them to comply? How can there be any understanding of the financial impacts if we do not understand how many people who should be on the scheme are not yet on it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It is important that we reflect that back. If we do not have a full understanding of the numbers, I cannot see how, for example, the role could be regulated, as we do not know how many people we would be regulating. That aspect is fundamental and it is important that we reflect that in the report.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Moving on to a final point about delays, the data that I have from March shows that the PVG scheme record update in 2016 took just over two days. That was up at nearly nine days in 2023. Do the minister and Disclosure Scotland think that the changes will resolve some of the delays and make the updates quicker, or do they expect the time required to continue on that trajectory?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Sorry. I get the point but, ultimately, the Government made a commitment to such provision, so what has it done to take into account the pupils who have not been able to access that provision? What is the Government’s assessment of who is missing out? What will the Government do about it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 27 November 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is appreciated, but the minister will know that most of the income that she has just described that can be used for those purposes is being stretched in different directions and that local authorities are really struggling. If this is not the bill to provide improvements for the pupils who we have heard are missing out, what is the Government’s alternative?