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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I did not interrupt you, minister. Colleges and universities will be watching this and wondering why they have not seen an improvement in their circumstances.

What the minister has not set out is that colleges’ staff numbers are down by 27 per cent since 2007; budgets have been cut by around a fifth since 2021, with a 17 per cent real-terms fall since 2021—as I said, colleges have said that they are “hanging by their fingernails”; and student participation and learning is falling. What is the plan to fix that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have two final specific questions. The graduate apprenticeship target is to remain at below 1,400. That is proportionally much fewer than elsewhere in the rest of the UK, and it looks as though something like £21 million will be spent on moving things around in quangos to deliver such a low number of graduate apprenticeships. Do you intend to increase that and improve it? Are you going to change that target?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Will the target increase?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

When I asked the witnesses from the SFC about that this morning, they said that they could not say that it would happen.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I raised a concern that colleges had raised with us, which is that only about 40 per cent of the funding for apprenticeships reaches colleges, and I asked the SFC witnesses whether that would change in the new model. They could not tell me that it would.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

The decision about the plan.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I understand the process and I know that there is on-going work on it. I will not repeat what that work is or go into whether people have concerns about it. The point is that, ultimately, somebody needs to make a decision about whether public funding is going to be given, how much and when, and whether the plan to access that funding will be accepted. Who is making that decision?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have one final question on Glasgow Kelvin College, which has a £8.2 million cladding bill. I appreciate that you are only just in the door, but what discussions have you had or will you have with the housing secretary to see what you can do to help with that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning. Thank you for engaging and for sending in the information that you have.

I will start with a general comment. You have two core statutory duties, as you have set out in your submission to the committee. One is to secure coherent provision and the other is to secure the undertaking of research. The report that you published at the end of last week and what we are hearing from colleges suggest that neither is really happening to the extent that it should. How do you respond to that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

How can coherent provision be offered when colleges are having to get rid of campuses and asking staff to take voluntary severance? That is not necessarily happening in places where it would make sense in relation to the protection and delivery of courses; it is happening because colleges have to take decisions on the basis of their not having enough funding to sustain themselves. Some courses that might cost a bit more to run, particularly courses for students with additional support needs, are having to be cut. How is any of that coherent?