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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you—that was really clear. However, what I am trying to get at is whether, in designing ADP, you at any point considered replicating the best aspects of PIP and DLA to ensure that the ADP transfer system would be much smoother for anyone coming from DLA or PIP as a result of its being able to look at the eligibility criteria across both.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I do not doubt that. That the current DWP system is poor, particularly in the move from DLA to PIP, is well documented, so the Scottish Government’s different approach, which includes protecting people for that bit longer, is hugely welcome.

You said earlier that people will not have to reapply as they have to do in the move from DLA to PIP. Ultimately, however, they will have to reapply; it will just happen later, and then they will have to make an application for ADP, which is what—

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I know that both aspects will be welcome, minister. Just in case I forget to do this—as I have in the past, so please allow me to do it just now—I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests as someone who receives PIP and who, I assume, will at some point transfer to ADP.

The aspects that you have just set out are really helpful, but I am still not clear whether you think that some people will be worse off. Can you specifically commit to the no-worse-off principle in this regard?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

But what about the long term?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you.

You have touched on this already, but my final question is on the support that people will get through the transitional arrangements. Do you have any understanding of the number of people who will need that kind of independent support through the advocacy service or third sector organisations, and have you looked at the capacity that those organisations will require to meet that demand?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

My questions follow on from those of my colleagues Maggie Chapman, Fulton MacGregor and Karen Adam. Can you tell us how many people have requested a gender recognition certificate while in your care? Has that happened?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am asking about any statutory declaration. Are there any restrictions around people’s ability to make a statutory declaration while they are in prison?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. I am not being deliberately difficult. I am keen to understand the likelihood of someone being in prison and choosing that moment to make a declaration.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. I am nearly finished, convener.

Have you any understanding of how things are working in other countries that already have a self-declaration system? What has been their approach to the prison population?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 June 2022

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am sorry, convener—this really will be my final question. Could that be a reason to decouple the medical process from the legal one, so that people are not immediately put down a medical path that could result in the situation that you have described?