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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 21 June 2022
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Thank you both for your answers.
I want to move on to talk about what we have heard already, which is the interdependence of human rights. I wonder if the SHRC could comment. We have heard from some people who have given evidence to the committee that there are women who are self-excluding from services and public spaces, such as toilets and changing rooms. That self-exclusion itself is significant enough to be proportionate and meet the test that you have set to determine that changes may be needed.
Can you tell us about your understanding of that behaviour and how it relates to this particular piece of legislation? I very strongly take the point that we must refer specifically to the legislation that is in front of us, as opposed to anything else.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 21 June 2022
Pam Duncan-Glancy
That was helpful—thank you.
I would like to ask one final question, if that is okay, convener.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 21 June 2022
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Thank you. I appreciate that. I also appreciate your important reminder that the bill is about what we can do for trans people.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 21 June 2022
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Thank you. Would any proposals in the current draft bill amend section 22 in any way, or would it remain as you have just described?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 21 June 2022
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Good afternoon to the panel. Thank you for the evidence that you have given so far and the information that you submitted in advance, which we found incredibly helpful.
A lot of my questions have already been covered, with the exception of a couple, so I will focus on them. You have touched on this, but can you tell us, from experience elsewhere, whether there are any countries that have monitored the impact of self-identification on the use of single-sex spaces?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 21 June 2022
Pam Duncan-Glancy
People have presented concerns to us about the risks that are associated with self-identification and the risks to women. We heard some very compelling evidence this morning from the SHRC on that matter. However, I am aware that other countries have introduced self-identification and that it has been in place for some time. For example, Argentina introduced it nearly 10 years ago now. Therefore, as a legislator, I am asking you what other legislatures did about that. How did they navigate that issue?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 21 June 2022
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Good morning. Thank you for your answers to the questions so far, Professor Sullivan, and I thank both panellists for the evidence that they have given ahead of today.
My first question is for Professor Sullivan and it is on data. What have you learned from your research colleagues in parts of the world where self-identification has been in place for some years? What impact have they found that there has been on data collection?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 21 June 2022
Pam Duncan-Glancy
My next question is for both witnesses. Professor Sullivan already touched on this when she mentioned section 22 of the 2004 act. What are your views on how the proposed changes would affect single-sex spaces?
Some people have said that our laws are different and not comparable with those in other parts of the world, because of section 22, on protected information. What is your understanding of the impact of the proposed changes on section 22, and how other countries have handled similar situations?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 21 June 2022
Pam Duncan-Glancy
Are you able to comment on section 22 of the 2004 act in particular?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 21 June 2022
Pam Duncan-Glancy
That is a pity.