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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

By whom?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

But the number of learners who are being taught is going down and the number of college staff is vastly shrinking.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Financial sustainability is your statutory responsibility.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am hearing language around review and transformation but, as you have concurred with committee members this morning, it feels as if you—as the canary in the coal mine, as it were—should have done that far sooner; I feel that it is a bit late to start reviewing things. Colleges need action in specific areas in order to be able to deliver a coherent provision.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I want to briefly touch on the tertiary education bill. In evidence to the committee, Colleges Scotland said that, under the current model of funding for apprenticeships, only 40 per cent of the Scottish Government funding reaches colleges in some apprenticeship frameworks. How will that change as a result of the bill, and what actions will you take to change it?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Just to be clear, if the responsibility is transferred from Skills Development Scotland to the Scottish Funding Council, will the circumstance of only 40 per cent of the funding going to colleges change?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I share the aspiration to ensure that the economy evolves and that universities and colleges are a key part of that evolution. The minister talks of a limited envelope, which has increased by about £5 billion this year—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I did not interrupt you, minister. Colleges and universities will be watching this and wondering why they have not seen an improvement in their circumstances.

What the minister has not set out is that colleges’ staff numbers are down by 27 per cent since 2007; budgets have been cut by around a fifth since 2021, with a 17 per cent real-terms fall since 2021—as I said, colleges have said that they are “hanging by their fingernails”; and student participation and learning is falling. What is the plan to fix that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have two final specific questions. The graduate apprenticeship target is to remain at below 1,400. That is proportionally much fewer than elsewhere in the rest of the UK, and it looks as though something like £21 million will be spent on moving things around in quangos to deliver such a low number of graduate apprenticeships. Do you intend to increase that and improve it? Are you going to change that target?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Will the target increase?