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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 September 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Additional Payments) (No 2) Bill

Meeting date: 23 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I declare an interest as well. I am in receipt of personal independence payment. Sorry—I did not mention that earlier.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 23 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is okay.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 23 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. I will stop there for now.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Additional Payments) (No 2) Bill

Meeting date: 23 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that answer. The question, though, is not so much about adult disability payment and benefits that are currently being delivered. It is about why, if the Scottish Government believes in paying a one-off payment in times of hardship, as you have just described in relation to clause 7 of the UK bill, it has not done that.

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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 23 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning, minister and officials. Forty-four per cent of carers are in poverty. About 40 per cent of them have said that they are struggling to make ends meet and that they cannot afford essentials, 49 per cent are struggling to afford the cost of food and 37 per cent are in debt as a consequence of caring. The number of carers who have cut back on essentials since 2021 has almost doubled. Has the minister considered at this juncture doubling the carers allowance supplement?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 23 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. I appreciate that, and it is what my supplementary point is about. We are going into far wider issues. When we spent a bit of time talking about it from one perspective, that was fine, but we are now told that it is not fine to do so from another perspective. I just want to raise that and say that these things, if they matter, matter from a much broader perspective than the one that was raised.

I can go straight into my next theme if that is helpful.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Additional Payments) (No 2) Bill

Meeting date: 23 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you for setting out the Government’s position on the cost of living payments and the legislative consent motion. If it is the view of the Scottish Government that it is within the legislative competence of the Scottish Parliament to pass legislation to provide payments to people in Scotland as set out in the bill, why has it not done so?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 23 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that and I understand the case transfer point, which is why carers allowance is still being delivered by the DWP. I get that, but why was £139 chosen and not £174.40?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 23 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am struggling a bit, if I am honest, because the child payment was announced a few years back and eligibility for that payment was clearly to be from 0 to 16. I appreciate that it was rolled out initially to under-sixes and then to over-sixes on 14 November last year, but that is something that the Government should have been planning for. I am not sure that I accept that it is fair to say that Social Security Scotland was overstretched because of a surprise payment. It was not really a surprise. It surely would have been in the making.

I take the point about this year not having that same pressure but, again, there are other benefits that are not rolled out yet in Social Security Scotland. Are we just going to keep seeing pressure on timescales? It feels as though there was not much planning for that. I suppose those were questions about the planning.

My final question is, when did you ask the DWP for the data? When the minister appeared at committee before Christmas, my understanding was that, if the data had been shared by 31 January, the payments would have been rolled out in a timely fashion as preferred. When did the Scottish Government ask the DWP to provide the data at the beginning of January?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 23 February 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Sorry, I am confused. How does it not relate?