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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I have a supplementary question for Glenn Carter that relates specifically to the point about behaviour and behaviour as a communication. How involved has the Royal College of Speech and Language Therapists been with the cabinet secretary’s summits on behaviour in schools? Have you been engaged by the Government on that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Do you think that one specific plan should replace all those plans?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Before I asked my earlier question, I should have said that I welcome you to the meeting. Thank you for all the information that you have given us in advance and for what you have shared with us in the meeting, which is really crucial. I will start with a general question, if that is all right, which I will direct to Suzi Martin and Deborah Best.

The first action in the Scottish Government’s action plan for pupils with additional support needs is to have a vision for pupils, which is that:

“school should help”

them to

“be the best they can be. School is a place where children and young people learn, socialise and become prepared for life beyond school.”

Do you think that that is happening? If not, why not?

I might have another supplementary question, but I will wait to see how we get on.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Can I ask one more question?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. I really appreciate that.

Before I bring in Deborah Best, I want to ask about the recording of timetabling data, which is not what it should be. Can you tell us a bit more about that and about what we need to change to make it more fit for purpose?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It does. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 February 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you for allowing that, convener.

Deborah, thank you for that testimony. The point that you made about a ramp being taken away is a really good example, as it shows that having support does not necessarily mean that someone is independent, because it can be taken away. It is incredibly important to recognise that.

My question is for Glenn Carter and Irene Stove. We know that only a very small number of co-ordinated support plans are in place. Given your role, Glenn, and Irene’s role as a guidance teacher, will you talk to us about why so few of those plans are in place?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

My colleague will ask about some of the experiences that you have described in relation to behaviour and so on.

You made the point that support staff do not necessarily have sight of plans or information. Can you talk a bit more about that? What do support staff need in order to do their job appropriately?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Good morning, panel, and thank you for the information that you submitted in advance. It has been hugely helpful, even though it has, at times, made difficult reading, because of the gravity of the situation in our schools.

Picking up on the theme of reform and reviews, I know that countless reviews have looked into what we need to do here. We have mentioned the Morgan review this morning, and there are plenty of others. What does the panel think are the barriers to implementing them?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I know that Sylvia wants to come in on my original question but, on that particular point, how important to the ASN agenda are the reforms that have been suggested?