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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

International Learning Exchange Programmes

Meeting date: 24 May 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Would that fund be for people from underrepresented groups to use, or would it be used to meet some of the hidden costs? We have heard evidence from Colleges Scotland and others about the hidden costs of the scheme, such as double funding for staff to go over two different periods. Would that be part of the inclusion fund, or is that separate?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you, convener, I will be very brief, because I will get an opportunity to ask further questions. Are you content that 100 jobs could be lost? I take the point that the losses are not a direct result of the £26 million cut, but the letter that we received from the college said that it was as a result of the sector’s budget cuts over several years. It is not fair to the people who are losing their jobs just to say that it is not because of the £26 million.

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Before I go on to the questions that I was going to ask, I have a very short supplementary question based on what Ruth Maguire asked.

We have already briefly discussed the issues at City of Glasgow College. When you meet the principal to discuss some of those issues, will you discuss which courses might have to be cut and will you be carrying out an impact assessment?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I am being quite specific, particularly in relation to City of Glasgow College.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

The EIS has said that the stated cuts

“will make it more difficult for college lecturers to get a pay rise commensurate with that of their colleagues elsewhere in the public sector”.

How do you respond to that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I do not think anything could be more real than 100 people in Glasgow, or 1,500 people across the country, possibly losing their jobs. Those are the figures according to correspondence that has been sent to the committee.

I have only been in this role for a short time, but there does not seem to be much direction for colleges or universities from the Government about its expectations. Can you set out when the Government will indicate its expectations to the Scottish Funding Council? Can you also set out your fair work expectations for colleges and universities?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is considerably regrettable. The Government has had 16 years to sort stuff like that out and we are in the situation that we are in. It will not be an acceptable answer to people who might lose their jobs.

My final question is short. How would you describe industrial relations in the sector, minister?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

In the higher and further education sector.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Universities and Colleges Funding 2023-24

Meeting date: 17 May 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. That brings me on nicely to what I was going to ask about.

On the issue of college boards, is it the Government’s intention to issue the good governance guidance at any point soon, and what is your view of having unions represented on boards?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 May 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I would certainly appreciate that.