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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 September 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

It was the three years previous to 2019 that I quoted figures on.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Thank you. I appreciate that, cabinet secretary. I offer my apologies; you are absolutely correct that it is the local government deal, not the teachers’ pay deal.

Nonetheless, there are still concerns locally that that will destabilise some of the plans that headteachers had made this year to use that funding. They have sought reassurance that the funding will, indeed, be given back to that pot. Can the cabinet secretary guarantee that that will be the case?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is why I am concerned, and it is why local people are concerned, about the movement of the £30 million. I appreciate that it can be—as you described it—reprofiled, but, as you are probably aware, because of funding arrangements being based on the financial year or the academic year, it could look as though there could be movement of funding in that some funding that could be used now might be taken back.

Schools have said that they do not think that it is possible to do that, and they are using their funding in a way that relies on its continuing on the longer-term basis that the Government set out last year. I would appreciate your looking into that and making sure that schools, headteachers and local authorities will not feel any detriment from movement of that funding.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I do. The evidence does not support the Government’s claim that the poverty-related attainment gap was narrowing before the pandemic. Indeed, the trend in national 5s and highers from 2016 to 2019 was that the gap was increasing, and it is now wider than it was in 2016. Can the cabinet secretary explain that, and will she fulfil the commitment to close the gap by 2026?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Would you accept that the gap was increasing between 2016 and 2019?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

That is correct. Sorry.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny and the Scottish Attainment Challenge

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

I appreciate that, convener.

With regard to this strategic change, I heard that colleges were considering using the funding to offer voluntary redundancy packages, if necessary. In the absence of that, some colleges have now pursued compulsory redundancies. What is the cabinet secretary’s response to that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Independent Review of Qualifications and Assessment

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Are the proposed structures fit for purpose to do that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

The delivery of free school meals is dependent on infrastructure, and I am keen to understand whether, if the budget were to be squeezed from other places, including for RAAC—that is not an unreasonable statement—that would risk the delivery of free school meals.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Pam Duncan-Glancy

Do you know where those savings are broadly coming from across the piece?