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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

I want to bring up an issue that was raised when we questioned the witnesses last week. A member of the Free Church of Scotland raised some concerns about the impact of the offences in the bill on the work of hospital chaplains and chaplaincy services. There might well be some scenarios in which they are within the 200m zone; in that respect, I am thinking of the Royal hospital for children and the Queen Elizabeth university hospital in Glasgow. They have sanctuaries that are non-religious spaces but which are places where people might want to speak to a spiritual leader or a chaplain. Similarly, there is a chaplaincy chapel on the fourth floor of the Princess Royal maternity building in Glasgow royal infirmary. Would it be prudent to consider an amendment that would provide comfort to or an exemption for people seeking chaplaincy services or chaplains who are registered with a health board?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

You do not think that there might be a scenario in which a clergyman or someone else dressed in the garb might inadvertently cause undue fear and alarm to someone accessing services, which could then create an unfortunate situation, or would that sort of enforcement of the bill just be unreasonable? I am trying to work through scenarios in which the bill might be unfortunate.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

Thank you.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

We have 10 seconds left. Dr Gulhane has a very quick supplementary.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

That is an interesting point. Are there practical scenarios to consider? Do you see, for example, hospital chaplains potentially being impacted by the legislation?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

The Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee is considering petition PE2049, which calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to introduce buffer zones outside migrant accommodation to protect occupants from demonstrations by anti-migrant groups. Although it noted that there were a number of issues to be dealt with, the Scottish Government has committed to looking into the feasibility of that proposal, so that is another case that might be worth considering.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

Thank you very much, Alina. I now invite Isabel to address the committee.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

Ross, I should just advise that Isabel Vaughan-Spruce and Dr Pickering would like to come in, too.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

We are right out of time. I really appreciate that the witnesses have stayed longer. It was a worthwhile exercise. If there is any additional information that you would like to share with us in relation to our scrutiny of the bill, please write to us.

I suspend the meeting briefly to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

11:02 Meeting suspended.  

11:07 On resuming—  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Abortion Services (Safe Access Zones) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 March 2024

Paul Sweeney

I believe that Isabel Vaughan-Spruce, Alina Dulgheriu and Dr Pickering wish to respond.