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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 February 2026
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I am interested in targeting carbon value in spatial planning. The climate change plan relies heavily on area-based woodland targets, but witnesses have stressed to the committee that a hectare is not necessarily a hectare—it depends on what is being done on it. We had quite a long chat about that. Concerns were raised about putting trees in the wrong places and about planting in organic soils. It was also said that we could do quite a lot through forestry management in a way that we are not doing or requiring at the moment.

How will you ensure that we not only hit hectare targets, in terms of numbers, but get the best carbon outcomes? How will you prevent trees from being planted in the wrong places, such as carbon-rich soils, where they could do more harm than good? Another point that was raised in our conversation with witnesses was about having a plan for where trees should be planted.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I mentioned this in my question, but I will bring it back into the conversation. Some stakeholders highlighted the idea that we could do more management within forestry plantations, for instance. Are you considering that? If forests were properly manged or better managed, that could help us with our carbon emissions.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Thank you.

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Okay—thank you, convener. I will see if I can cobble it together again. I was inspired by Alastair Hamilton’s point that the closure is not doing anything and Robin Cook’s follow-on point that it is not enhancing the stock.

Dr Cook, you said that the closed area is focused on spawning, but you asked whether that is the most effective way to protect spawning stocks. That inspired my question: what else could we be doing?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

I want to dig into that a bit more, and then other people can come in. Are we using the right measure? If we took that measure away, what could we be doing to get us where we want to be—protecting the cod stock?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Do you have clear early warning signs in the plan, as well as the monitoring processes? Is there something in place that would trigger a new plan, or is there anything that would make you think, “That’s a red flag,” or, “That’s a warning sign that we’re not on track”?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Okay. The Scottish Agroecology Partnership—SAP—has pointed out that there are not really any opportunities in the forestry farming space for things like hedgerow planting. Are you looking into that?

Also, I remember being at the Royal Highland Show, where the Woodland Trust and others were presenting the idea of having trees on farms. Are we optimising that idea or that direction of travel? There is such an opportunity for farmland—I have been to a monitor farm near Grantown-on-Spey, where the farmer had his cattle grazing through a wonderful, quite old birch wood. Maybe we need to look into that kind of thing.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Does that include continuous-cover forestry? Are you considering that as a possible approach?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

As Tim Eagle touched on the first part of my question, I will move on to the other part of it. He asked about other sources of funding, and you have pointed out that you are looking at private finance. However, Future Economy Scotland warned us in evidence that the private finance market for peatland is “underdeveloped and untested” and that we might be

“delaying action … for an uncertain solution”—[Official Report, Rural Affairs and Islands Committee, 7 January 2026; c 4.]

later on. It also raised the practical point that peatland restoration is largely about avoiding emissions, so the demand for peatland credits might be weaker, and it pointed to, for example, tax-based approaches, zero-interest, income-contingent loans and that kind of thing. Is the Government looking at that, instead of just going for straight-up carbon credits and that kind of approach?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 28 January 2026

Ariane Burgess

Is the carbon emissions land tax in that space?