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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 September 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

That is interesting. As you say, income tax comes out of people’s wages, so they must see it, but there is something about council tax that makes it very prominent. Having reflected on our previous evidence sessions, I wonder whether it is because council tax has a historical link to the poll tax, which was so controversial. Perhaps that is it. Shona Robison, do you have anything to add?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

I will pick up on the scope of the engagement. The idea of percentages came up at our meeting on 18 February. Would you consider talking to people about that? There are challenges with that idea and no one is necessarily advocating it, but what was said during that meeting suggests that a percentage system could be more proportionate and potentially fairer than the current banding system.

Would you be prepared to open up the engagement process to include discussion of that idea, so that people can understand that banding is not the only option? It might be the one that we end up with, but there could be other options.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

That sounds like one of the good next steps.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

I want to pick up on the 20 per cent IFS figure—the people whom it identified as being potential losers. In part of your collaboration and work together, will you try to dig into that data, to get an understanding of what the percentage really is?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

I am glad to hear you say that we do not want to be here in a year’s time without having achieved anything. There is a sense of relief in the committee—and perhaps among our adoring fans, who are watching—about that.

Emma Roddick has a couple of questions.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Decisions on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Good morning and welcome to the 7th meeting in 2025 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent.

Our first agenda item is to decide whether to take items 4 and 5 in private. Do members agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

That sounds great. Alexander Stewart has a brief supplementary question.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

We have talked about trying to dive into the detail to determine how many people will be affected by the changes—the figure of 20 per cent of households has been given. I am interested in how you will approach engagement, because we have also talked about the number of people who are in arrears. If you have got to that stage, what is your thinking on how to engage with folk who are in arrears and have lived experience of struggling with council tax, as they will be some of the most vulnerable people in Scotland?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Great. That concludes our questions. Whoever organised your diary to have that meeting this afternoon was thinking really well. I thank the witnesses for joining us. It has been a helpful discussion.

I briefly suspend the meeting to allow the witnesses to leave the table.

11:22 Meeting suspended.  

11:23 On resuming—  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

The next item on our agenda is consideration of two negative instruments. Do committee members have any comments on the instruments?

Members indicated disagreement.