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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Exactly—it is what you can do.

I want to take a moment to explore best value. The definition from the Accounts Commission states:

“Best Value is about ensuring that there is good governance and effective management of resources, with a focus on improvement, to deliver the best possible outcomes for the public.”

That is what you are all about. All morning, we have been talking about the fact that councils are really under pressure. I will mention a kind of case study as an example. In my region, the council has said that it has to close a community centre for various reasons, and there has been an outpouring from the community. That comes back to the point that Jo Armstrong and Emma Roddick touched on about involving communities in what is going on. There is clearly a passion for that community centre—people use it, and it is well loved.

I wonder what the scope of best value is. We have talked about the financial aspects, but there is a social-glue aspect as well. In the past, way before we had plumbed-in water, people would all have met at the well and had their chats and so on. That is what that community centre provides. To me, there is something about best value that goes beyond the financial aspects; it is about creating a place where people have contact with one another, which is becoming increasingly important. We have understood that point since coming out of Covid, when people had a tremendous experience—not a tremendous experience; a terrible experience—of isolation and the impacts of that.

How do you see best value? Do you take that issue into account when you are thinking about things such as efficiencies, changes and transformation?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

That is helpful. It is interesting that communities are taking councils to court over some things.

On participatory budgeting, we have talked previously about the fact that what we are seeing in Scotland is more like participatory grant making, and that we need to move to participatory budgeting.

Earlier, you spoke about different models of practice. Do you see a future in which people understand enough about how their services are delivered and the challenges that councils face that they can engage in a genuine participatory budgeting process?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

I will tuck in another question. How resilient is the sector?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Fulton MacGregor has some questions about capital issues.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Our next theme is reserves, debt and financial sustainability.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

In the most recent budget, we had an increase in funding for empty homes officers and that whole piece, so it will be interesting to see how that plays out in the next year.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

While you have been in your role, have you had any surprises or shocks?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

The next item on our agenda is consideration of a negative instrument.

As members have no comments on the instrument, does the committee agree that we do not wish to make any recommendations in relation to it?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

That sharing of best practice is certainly a good thing.

Alexander Stewart, I believe that I inspired you to ask another question.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Deer Working Group Report

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

Some of you have started to touch on what I want to ask. I want to get into some of the detail on the recommendations, but I am very glad that we have started to talk about the carrot in a bit more detail; that is helpful. I remember having a conversation not that long ago with people who have been involved with the Common Ground Forum, who are knowledgeable and thoughtful about these things, about the idea that we could spend £15 million to save £640 million. If we invest in doing deer management properly, over time we could save a great deal for the public purse. Having conversations with the Government about that is difficult, because of budget constraints. David Fleetwood has touched on some specifics, but it would be good to hear from others what kind of things we need for the carrot. It has been proposed to me that, if we delivered a subsidy to estates for the venison price of at least £3 per kilogram of the venison that is produced over and above the annual total—