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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

I have a series of initial questions that connect to your reflections on your first year in post, which you opened with. Now that you have been in post for a year, have the objectives that you set out for the commission when you came to the committee in April 2024 changed?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Good morning, and welcome to the fourth meeting in 2025 of the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee. We have received apologies from Meghan Gallacher. I remind all members and witnesses to ensure that their devices are on silent.

Under agenda item 1, does the committee agree to take items 4 and 5 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Item 2 is for the committee to take evidence on the “Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”. We are joined from the Accounts Commission by Jo Armstrong, the chair, and Derek Yule, a member; and from Audit Scotland by Blyth Deans, audit director, and Martin McLauchlan, audit manager.

I welcome our witnesses. There is no need for you to turn on your microphones. We will do that for you—it is one less thing for you to think about. Before we turn to questions from members, I invite Ms Armstrong to make a short opening statement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

A good surprise.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

I have a couple more questions. The first is about the report into fraud at Aberdeen City Council. Given that the fraud has come to light, how confident are you that other local authorities have adequate safeguards in place so that it does not happen elsewhere?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

I thank the witnesses for joining us. It has been a very good session. We managed our time well and covered a lot of areas.

I suspend the meeting briefly to allow the witnesses to leave the table.

10:56 Meeting suspended.  

10:57 On resuming—  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Certainly.

I move on to the settlement. After a generally positive settlement for local government in the recent budget, as you acknowledged, both your bulletin and the recent Local Government Information Unit survey provide important reminders of the challenges that local authorities face, which you touched on. I am interested in understanding whether the challenges that local authorities face have changed since you first spoke to the committee.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

It would be great if you highlighted those points to us as they come up.

Willie Coffey has more questions in this area.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

I am going to pop back to Willie Coffey for a question on pension funds.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

“Local government in Scotland: Financial bulletin 2023/24”

Meeting date: 4 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

That can be a challenging position for someone to be in. It is great that you have reached out to the chief executives and auditors. As you say, that is—