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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

So it is temporal and spatial.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

That would be very helpful.

At the beginning, you said that the “stakeholder landscape is difficult” and that there is polarisation, but there is something that everyone around the table has in common: they want to ensure that fisheries can operate over the long term. I invite you to look for that common ground—the Scottish Government is doing great work in other areas on a common-ground approach—by working through the FMAC group, RIFGs and so on to move to facilitation that helps people to get out of polarisation, because what is happening is just retraumatising people. Fishers are just trying to make a living, and ENGOs are trying to secure a long-term future for the people of Scotland that serves the public interest. I invite the marine directorate to step into the space to help to make that happen. If we keep saying that there is polarisation and that things are very difficult, that is what we will get. If we can support people to see what we have in common—our shared interest—that will help us to move forward in, I hope, a better way.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

I appreciate that, and it has been helpful to hear about the broader context and the other strands of work apart from the IFMI programme. However, as part of our budget work, the committee committed a session to the marine directorate’s financing. We are trying to help you. It seems to me that there are problems, because pieces of work start, then seem to stop. I want to frame the conversation in that context.

You are starting something new with the IFMI programme, but you did not even acknowledge the other pieces of work, which I had to tease out. I loved what Helen Downie said about the branches—I could visualise them—but let us include the other pieces of work, too, so that we understand everything that is going on. I know that things are complex, but we are smart thinkers and it is helpful if we can see the full picture so that we can help with the challenging situation in inshore waters.

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for clarifying that. We are 15 years on from the 2010 act. When are we going to see all the regional marine plans? I know that we have three, but people are saying that there should be more. Those three have stalled, and there is quite a degree of frustration around the fact that they are not being taken forward.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

I have a question before I ask my main question. We have talked a lot about the RIFGs and also FMAC—you set a lot of store by that process of engagement. When did you last meet the full FMAC group?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Where is it currently used?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

The fisheries management strategy 2020 to 2030 says that fisheries will play a part

“to reduce emissions and help to create a low carbon economy”.

I would like to get a sense of how the IFMI programme will help us achieve that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

I will ask about something else that has been coming out of this conversation. You have the call for evidence and consultation, and you talked about the challenge of engagement with fishers. The convener talked about the economic aspect, and I am talking now about the environmental aspect and creating a low-carbon economy, which is in the fisheries management strategy. To what extent do the people who you are trying engage understand that there is a fisheries management strategy, that there is certain legislation that we are all trying to do this work under, and that we have signed up to restoring 30 per cent of Scotland’s seas by 2030, which is not that far away?

Do you see what I mean? You are inviting people to engage, and it is all broadly open, but do they understand that it the strategy sits within legal and statutory requirements when they respond to the call for evidence?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

That is good to hear.