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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

“Economic, Social and Cultural Rights in the Highlands and Islands”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Before I ask my main question, I want to pick up on something that Luis Yanes spoke about, which is how the individual problem is solved but the systemic issue is not. That has come through in work that I have been doing in another committee, on the Scottish Public Service Ombudsman. One thing that has come up through that work is what happens to people in trauma and how they go into a kind of head-based system, when what is actually going on is quite a lot of emotional challenges, and there is no space for that. I hear that you are saying that moving to a more human rights-based approach is about addressing the system. Is there space for addressing the emotional or traumatic challenges that people often face when they get hooked by something and cannot get free?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

“Economic, Social and Cultural Rights in the Highlands and Islands”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

The main question that I want to ask comes back to the point that was initially made by the convener on the human rights bill. That bill will not now be introduced in this parliamentary session, and your recommendation is that it be introduced in the next session. Are you aware of any other bills in the pipeline, such as the Housing (Scotland) Bill, whereby we could look at introducing rights in that way? The housing bill is one example, but is there anything else that you can think of—maybe community wealth building legislation?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

“Economic, Social and Cultural Rights in the Highlands and Islands”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

This has been a brilliant conversation, and I wish we had a few more hours to go into some of the detail that has started to arise in my mind. The intention now is to share the findings across the Highlands and Islands and to enable local communities to use the report to defend and—to use the word that I heard you say—“access” their rights. I would be interested to understand how you plan to use the report to help enable communities to defend and access their rights.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

“Economic, Social and Cultural Rights in the Highlands and Islands”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

You said that it feels a lot like teaching and that you have to explain a lot to people. Are human rights embedded in our school curriculum, so that younger people are growing up knowing what they are?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

“Economic, Social and Cultural Rights in the Highlands and Islands”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Is there any specific legislation that you have in mind, or should we just look at everything that comes through the Parliament? We have only 12 or 13 more months left of this parliamentary session.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

No one else is jumping in, so I take it that there is agreement on that.

Further to that question, how can the recently announced engagement process in Scotland lead to anything different? How are we going to get there?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

You specifically covered the question on water charges, which is clearly an issue. It was interesting to hear that people who are not paying council tax still have to pay water charges, which seems to be a bit of a discrepancy.

That concludes our questions. Thank you so much for joining us this morning. It has been helpful to hear the Scottish perspective, and I also thank our Welsh colleagues for joining us. You are certainly ahead of the curve and I hope that we can learn from what you have been doing and see some changes in Scotland at some point soon.

I will now suspend the meeting briefly to allow for our witnesses to leave the table.

11:11 Meeting suspended.  

11:13 On resuming—  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

We previously agreed to take the next items in private so, as that was the final public item on our agenda for today, I close the public part of the meeting.

11:14 Meeting continued in private until 11:34.  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Does anyone else have any thoughts on how we can achieve something through the latest engagement process?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

I turn to our Welsh colleagues. I am interested in understanding why revaluation and reform of council tax has been such a priority for the Welsh Government when it has not been so in Scotland or England.