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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 June 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

In response to my first question, Shona Robison said that the 2015 commission on local tax reform had some good recommendations but did not propose anything specific. How much you are going to look at those recommendations as part of the process, rather than reinventing the wheel?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

It is good to hear that you recognise that.

I will move on and bring in other members.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

On your comment about people’s reactions to tax, we are, in a way, in an unfortunate situation. In thinking about how we become a modern and progressive Scotland, we often look to the Nordic countries, but what they show is that taxation is really important for all the public services that make life good for everybody. Perhaps, as part of the process of considering the council tax, we have an opportunity to give people a better understanding of what it actually does.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

That is interesting. As you say, income tax comes out of people’s wages, so they must see it, but there is something about council tax that makes it very prominent. Having reflected on our previous evidence sessions, I wonder whether it is because council tax has a historical link to the poll tax, which was so controversial. Perhaps that is it. Shona Robison, do you have anything to add?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

We have talked about trying to dive into the detail to determine how many people will be affected by the changes—the figure of 20 per cent of households has been given. I am interested in how you will approach engagement, because we have also talked about the number of people who are in arrears. If you have got to that stage, what is your thinking on how to engage with folk who are in arrears and have lived experience of struggling with council tax, as they will be some of the most vulnerable people in Scotland?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Great. That concludes our questions. Whoever organised your diary to have that meeting this afternoon was thinking really well. I thank the witnesses for joining us. It has been a helpful discussion.

I briefly suspend the meeting to allow the witnesses to leave the table.

11:22 Meeting suspended.  

11:23 On resuming—  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

The next item on our agenda is consideration of two negative instruments. Do committee members have any comments on the instruments?

Members indicated disagreement.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

We previously agreed to take the next items in private.

11:24 Meeting continued in private until 12:06.  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

Great.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Council Tax

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ariane Burgess

That is very welcome. After this evidence session, we will discuss how we will communicate our findings so far.

Fulton MacGregor has the next questions.