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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 September 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

That was indeed an interesting part of our discussion. We have only a couple more questions to go. It is half past 10, so I trust that it is okay if we go on for maybe five or 10 more minutes.

I call Paul McLennan.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

You said that we are not starting with a blank sheet and that there is huge suspicion. If there is suspicion, we need to build trust. Would the three things that you outlined—core funding, removal of ring fencing and joint setting of priorities—help to ease the suspicion and help us to move towards trust?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

I agree with that. When I talk to people where I live, I find that most people seem not to understand what their local authority is giving them, and they tend to move to conversations about the national Government. We need to do some work to gain respect and understanding of what is delivered at the local level, in the minds of people in Scotland.

I have another question; I will stick with the new deal. The recent update from the Scottish Government to the committee spoke about agreeing a new deal in advance of the coming financial year. Is that a realistic timescale? What needs to be agreed before a deal is struck? That timescale feels tight.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

Councillor Ross said that we have been doing this for the past 10 years. The local governance review has been going on since 2017, so maybe the conversation has been happening. As you said, we have the pieces and elements of the conversation, so it could be that things could move quite quickly if we could build trust and have the dialogue that you are talking about.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much for that perspective. We will move on to a different theme. Thank you very much for your contributions so far.

Willie Coffey will pick up on the local governance review.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

The next question is from Annie Wells, who is joining us online.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

Does anyone else wish to come in? I am happy to move on.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

Yes, across the funding landscape there seem to be quite a few pots of money, and it feels as though things need to come together a bit more.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

We actually have a stack of people who are keen to respond to that important question—Alex Nicoll, Shaun Macaulay and Euan Jardine.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Local Governance Review

Meeting date: 13 December 2022

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much for that, Shaun.

I will bring in Alex Nicoll. Alex, you can add new things, but do not feel that you have to. What are the challenges, and what would you like to see in the budget?