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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 July 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

So, the money is in a different budget, but you are spending it on the same thing.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

So, you moved it previously into capital to do the slurry work and now you are bringing it back into resource. What do you expect it to be spent on, now that it is in resource?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

That has raised a question for me. I do not necessarily expect anyone to have the answer to this, but I would like to know the root of the single-year approach. Obviously, it comes from the UK Government that the Scottish Government gets single-year funding and then there is a knock-on effect for local authorities. I wonder where that came from, historically. It is astounding that pretty much the whole of Scotland is run on a one-year budget. How can a country be run in that way? Do witnesses have any thoughts on that or understanding of it?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

The final few questions will be asked by Miles Briggs.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

That is great. Obviously, as a committee, we are trying to understand the situation. We have had considerable discussion about the fact that there are various “versions of the reality”, as it was described by the director of finance for Argyll and Bute Council at last week’s committee meeting. It is difficult for the committee to scrutinise the Government’s budget with those different versions, and it is challenging for councils to make budget decisions. I am interested to understand why there is such disagreement over the budget figures each year, despite the commitment from COSLA and the Scottish Government to working together.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

That is great—thanks very much for that. I call Pam Gosal.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Stephanie Callaghan has a supplementary.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

I call Willie Coffey.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Minister, in relation to the fiscal framework, you mentioned the accountability and assurance framework a couple of times. It seems that you are putting a lot of weight and importance on its development. Are you in a position to give us an indication of what you want to see in that framework, in terms of the relationship between COSLA and the Scottish Government?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 16 January 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that.

I will now take a longer-term view. In November, the Scottish Government informed the committee that

“local government revenue funding is 2.6 per cent higher in real terms than it was in 2013-14—as confirmed in the recent Accounts Commission report.”

Around the same time, COSLA wrote to the Parliament’s Economy and Fair Work Committee to say:

“Over the past decade, Local Government has experienced significant cuts to funding. A 9.6% reduction in revenue funding from 2013/14 to 2020/21 was followed by further real terms reductions in 2022/23 and 2023/24.”

I am interested to hear how you account for the differences in interpretation.