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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 January 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Ddraft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

That is brilliant. Thank you very much.

I will go a bit deeper now. Some of you have already mentioned the target for decarbonising heat systems by 2045 and started to touch on the policies in that regard, or lack of them. I will not go around everybody from this point, so please indicate if you want to come in.

I am interested in your thoughts on the policies and proposals in the plan, particularly on the long-awaited heat in buildings bill. The committee is wondering when that will come through. I want to understand what we will be missing if the bill does not come through—what we will be losing. A considerable part of the proposed legislation has already been removed, so will we really need the bill to drive forward the change that you are all talking about? When we went around the table initially, I heard about the need for a more holistic approach and for engagement both with the public in general and with consumers in particular. I would like to hear your thoughts on that deeper policy aspect.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Ddraft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much for picking up the challenges that we face in rural and lower density areas.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Ddraft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

That was a great point.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Ddraft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

So, there is no policy getting in the way.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Ddraft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

I have gone through the process, and I agree with you 100 per cent on the need for a smoother journey. There needs to be much better communication.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Ddraft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

A flurry of people have indicated that they want to come in. We have opened the door to the issue of skills, which I feel that we should come on to.

Let us start with Cornelia.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Ddraft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

What I am hearing is that it is also about the scale. If it is on a bigger scale, there could be a market.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Ddraft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much.

I believe that Fulton MacGregor has some questions on local government, too. Have those questions been covered, Fulton, or would you still like to come in?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Ddraft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

Come on in, then.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Ddraft]

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thanks, Fulton, for giving people an opportunity to get out the big highlighter pen and pick out anything that they want the committee to hear loud and clear.