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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Ariane Burgess
I am talking about FMAC as a whole, not just in groups.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Ariane Burgess
That would be helpful to understand. It would also be helpful if you could provide the committee with all the dates of meetings. We hear that the meetings happen, but it would be helpful for us to understand the regularity of engagement, given that they seem to be such an important part of your process.
I will pick up on Rhoda Grant’s question about the decentralisation of fisheries management powers. I want to get a sense of whether the inshore fisheries management improvement—IFMI—process will help us get to a place where we understand how a level of decentralised spatial management could be adopted and implemented. The international evidence is that spatial management, guided by science—for example, the characteristics of the seabed in any area—is essential for the recovery and resilience of fish stocks.
We hear about the need for spatial management over and over again. Will IFMI move us in that direction, or is it again off the table because, as the convener has unearthed, the scope of the current process is quite tightly prescribed?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Ariane Burgess
Did you just say that fisheries are not included in the regional marine plans? Why is that?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Ariane Burgess
Spatial management.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Ariane Burgess
I have a question on compliance and enforcement. I would like to explore that and understand how it is being considered in the IFMI programme.
Various information has come to us. For example, we have seen that a 2017 investigation by the European Court of Auditors identified less-dissuasive fisheries sanctions and greater levels of reoffending in Scotland than exist in other European countries, and we have been given anecdotal information indicating that certain activities that adversely impact marine species and habitats have continued to occur with few repercussions because of a lack of enforcement. At our 26 October round-table discussion on inshore fisheries, concerns were raised around the lack of enforcement of management in the marine protected areas—I know that there are plans for that, but we need to get on with it. Concerns were also raised about the lack of sufficient information and data to ensure transparency and accountability, and about the need for more enhanced sanctions for non-compliance. There is quite a lot in there. Will the IFMI process help in that regard? It is a bit embarrassing that Scotland has a higher level of reoffending than other European countries, is it not?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Ariane Burgess
You described the list of tools: spatial management, temporal management, licence and quota—
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Ariane Burgess
Like the cod box.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Ariane Burgess
So it is temporal and spatial.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Ariane Burgess
That would be very helpful.
At the beginning, you said that the “stakeholder landscape is difficult” and that there is polarisation, but there is something that everyone around the table has in common: they want to ensure that fisheries can operate over the long term. I invite you to look for that common ground—the Scottish Government is doing great work in other areas on a common-ground approach—by working through the FMAC group, RIFGs and so on to move to facilitation that helps people to get out of polarisation, because what is happening is just retraumatising people. Fishers are just trying to make a living, and ENGOs are trying to secure a long-term future for the people of Scotland that serves the public interest. I invite the marine directorate to step into the space to help to make that happen. If we keep saying that there is polarisation and that things are very difficult, that is what we will get. If we can support people to see what we have in common—our shared interest—that will help us to move forward in, I hope, a better way.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 5 February 2025
Ariane Burgess
I appreciate that, and it has been helpful to hear about the broader context and the other strands of work apart from the IFMI programme. However, as part of our budget work, the committee committed a session to the marine directorate’s financing. We are trying to help you. It seems to me that there are problems, because pieces of work start, then seem to stop. I want to frame the conversation in that context.
You are starting something new with the IFMI programme, but you did not even acknowledge the other pieces of work, which I had to tease out. I loved what Helen Downie said about the branches—I could visualise them—but let us include the other pieces of work, too, so that we understand everything that is going on. I know that things are complex, but we are smart thinkers and it is helpful if we can see the full picture so that we can help with the challenging situation in inshore waters.
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