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Climate Action Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 September 2026
Ariane Burgess
Thank you. I think that I have used up my time, convener.
Climate Action Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 September 2026
Ariane Burgess
James Black, you said that the taxonomy piece has improved but you are not sure whether it will ever be enough—for example, it labels entire budget lines, such as affordable housing, as a positive thing for climate. You touched on granularity, so forgive me if you have gone into this already, but I am still trying to understand what the whole JBR thing is about. Is there any way in which the system could be made more granular?
Climate Action Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 September 2026
Ariane Burgess
What are your thoughts about the appropriateness of summing all the budget lines labelled as positive and suggesting that all of that money is positive for climate change goals? It sounds like you might be saying that it is not appropriate, but I do not want to put words in your mouth.
Climate Action Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 September 2026
Ariane Burgess
I wish to explore something with you, sticking with the affordable housing supply programme and the budget for that, which is close to £1 billion. Is there something in the JBR—the taxonomy or net zero assessment, or I do not know what—that forces change on the ground? We are excited and proud that we predominantly use a timber-frame structure for building our housing here; that is not the case in England. We still build the walls with concrete block, however, and concrete has a high level of embodied carbon. There is absolute evidence that we could be building with much more timber in our housing. Is there something in the JBR taxonomy somewhere that could require or trigger policy change in building standards that would force a change in how we are building housing, which would then help us with our carbon emissions?
Climate Action Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 24 September 2026
Ariane Burgess
Yes, if there is time. Professor Roy, would you like to reflect on any of that?
Climate Action Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2026
Ariane Burgess
I have a couple of supplementary questions on public sector reform, and then I will turn to climate change.
I appreciate the three questions that you have posed yourself. You say that the third one, which focuses on access to services, might be the priority. What consideration have you given to the fact that the bodies have different roles? Some of those roles concern policy, but SEPA’s role concerns regulation and enforcement. You are mashing up bodies that have very different roles to play and actions to take. For me, enforcement is a service to the public in terms of making sure that we protect our environment. I am concerned that we might end up with an environmental body that is two faced, for want of a better term, because, on the one hand, it needs to be nice and set policy and so on, and, on the other hand, it has to act in relation to enforcement and compliance. Have you given any thought to that mash-up?
I am also a bit concerned about the fact that NatureScot already struggles to monitor its sites adequately and to deal with various applications, and that SEPA struggles when it comes to monitoring, data and so on. We have environmental bodies that are not necessarily functioning optimally, and we are proposing to put them all together. I would love it if you addressed that.
I would also like to know at what point in your exploration of the merger proposal you might decide, “Okay—this is actually not a good idea. We’ve explored it and we realise that we need to go another way.”
Climate Action Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2026
Ariane Burgess
If, as you explore the idea and you go through your tests, there comes a point at which you decide that you have done all the research, have found that you would lose lots of people and have realised that various things would not work and that, in fact, a merger would not be a good idea, will there be a break point at which you might say, “We thought that this was a good approach but, actually, it would be better to do certain things within the organisations rather than go ahead with a merger?”
Climate Action Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2026
Ariane Burgess
It is good to know where you have your highlighter pen and have said, “This really has to happen.”
Climate Action Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2026
Ariane Burgess
The convener is indicating that we need to move on, so I will leave my last two questions.
Climate Action Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2026
Ariane Burgess
So, transport will be a key policy area.