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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Ariane Burgess

I take Rhoda Grant’s point, and I take the minister’s point on amendment 3 with regard to the detail that will be developed. However, I also take on board Christine Grahame’s comment that there is merit in the health records being connected to the transaction, so I press amendment 2.

Amendment 2 agreed to.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Ariane Burgess

To pick up on that, I note that both Mark Harvey and Rachel Shucksmith mentioned stronger co-ordination, so what kinds of things have you seen change or do you think need to change to improve that co-ordination?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Ariane Burgess

On the basis of the minister’s offer to meet and discuss the issue further, I will not move the amendment.

Amendment 1 not moved.

Amendments 27 to 29 moved—[Jim Fairlie]—and agreed to.

Amendment 65 moved—[Rachael Hamilton].

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Ariane Burgess

Do you think that something is missing there? If NatureScot is looking at national things and the responsibility for making the other decisions falls—to use your term—on the local authority, is something else needed, or are you satisfied with the local authority making that decision in that nuanced way?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Ariane Burgess

I will pick up on a number of the recommendations that were made by the REC Committee. Recommendation 9 says:

“The Committee considers the current level of mortalities to be too high in general across the sector and it is very concerned to note the extremely high mortality rates at particular sites. It is of the view that no expansion should be permitted at sites which report high or significantly increased levels of mortalities, until these are addressed to the satisfaction of the appropriate regulatory bodies.”

Throughout these evidence sessions, we have heard about high mortality. One example is of a salmon farm in Loch Seaforth in the Western Isles, where more than a million fish died in a production cycle in 2023, and the level of suffering carried on for six months without any consequences. What do you think about that?

From our evidence sessions, it seems to be the case that already high levels of mortality are increasing—possibly due to climate change but maybe for other reasons—but nobody in the process seems to be responsible for the mortalities. We cannot quite get to the bottom of it. Do you have any thoughts on that and on what we can do about it?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Ariane Burgess

So, when you consent a farm, you do not have any data on mortality. You said that we might need to look at spatial mapping. At the moment, you do not have any data on the trends. I think that Rachel Shucksmith said that there is a fluid and changing picture when we are dealing with the marine space.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Ariane Burgess

I want to pick up on that point, because if a million animals that live on land were to die—chickens or pigs—there would be an outcry.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Ariane Burgess

My sense is that the industry sees a high rate of mortality as the price of doing business; that is what we have heard throughout our evidence sessions. Rachel Shucksmith, do you have any thoughts about what we could do to address the mortality issue, or on how we could support the industry to improve in that area?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Ariane Burgess

I imagine that, if people do not have an email address, they would not have to supply one, but we want to have people’s contact information. The aim of amendment 3 is to point out that we increasingly live in a digital age, and most people have email addresses. I sometimes say to people that, if they can get away in this world without having an email address, they are very fortunate.

I move amendment 2.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Welfare of Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Ariane Burgess

My amendment 4 builds on my earlier amendments by recognising the crucial role of vets in ensuring dogs’ welfare. It would require an owner to show their certificate to a vet, as well as a police officer or inspector, if asked, which would help a vet to acquire all the information that was needed to effectively treat a sick dog and help a practice to trace other animals from a negligent breeder or owner that might be similarly affected. The amendment also explicitly acknowledges the crucial role that vets can play throughout the whole certificate process.