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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 June 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

I apologise—I now have two people on the committee with the initials MG and must be careful about that. I bring in Mark Griffin.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

In the spring of 2024, we had a useful session on rural housing—folks watching online can refer to that. Chris Birt’s point about SME builders was raised in that session. We heard that, after the financial crash of 2008, SME construction companies that were responsible for building a lot of rural housing found that the bottom fell out of the market. I cannot remember the exact words that were used earlier, but I think that Ken Gibb talked about the land supply issue as being something that could incentivise SMEs to come forward and get established in those areas. There has also been discussion around issues such as ways of thinking about building at scale, because there are two-house developments dotted around the north-west coast of Sutherland, and there can be action to collectively buy the materials for all of them, which keeps those costs down. There are some good solutions out there, and we definitely need to persist with them.

That brings us to the end of our questions—except for one that I have just been reminded of.

The Scottish Government has a proposal for a new national outcome on housing—there has not previously been one on housing in the national performance framework. The outcome would be:

“We live in safe, high-quality and affordable homes that meet our needs”.

I am interested in our witnesses’ views on that proposed new outcome. Could it help the Scottish Government to guide its policies to address the housing emergency?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Does anyone else want to share any thoughts? You do not have to.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

It is helpful to understand that it is a nuanced approach, depending on the circumstances.

Stephen, what is going on in North Lanarkshire?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

That is very helpful. Thank you.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Finally, I have to ask about the Government’s new national outcome on housing, which is:

“We live in safe, high-quality and affordable homes that meet our needs”.

I think that you were all in the room when I asked the previous panel about that. What do you think of that outcome? Will it will help to guide the Scottish Government’s policies to address the housing emergency?

Unusually, I will start at the other end, and go to Edward first.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Yes. That would bring in the placemaking bit.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Christian, do you want to come in?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

We have certainly heard plenty about the need for many more planners.

I will move on. We have had two questions and a supplementary from Emma Roddick, and we have quite a few other questions. I bring in Willie Coffey.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thanks for that. Is there anything new and different to add?