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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 June 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

That is very helpful. My second question was going to be whether the housing emergency could have been predicted, but I think that you have answered that, given the work that you have been doing for quite some time. Is there anything that you want to add?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

That is great—thanks very much. One of my challenges is that I need to bring members in, but first I have another question. You have talked quite a bit about home ownership. Is it a given that home ownership, and the pathway into that, would be part of solving the housing emergency?

In other countries, and certainly on the European continent, people are quite happy to rent throughout their lives, with very good-quality rentals at a fair rent that is not such a burden on their financial circumstances. Home ownership is a tendency in the United Kingdom, but is it a given that that is what we have to do?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Yes.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Look at that—it is 11:40 exactly. Well done, everyone, and thank you so much for answering the questions thoroughly and well. It has been a really good conversation and we managed to come in on time. Thanks a lot for joining us this morning. You have given us very good information for our inquiry.

I suspend the meeting briefly to allow the witnesses to leave.

11:40 Meeting suspended.  

11:42 On resuming—  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

It is great to hear from you. We will let the session run on for a little bit longer, but we are a bit tight for time, because there are lots of people sitting behind you in the public gallery who have things to say.

Alexander Stewart has some questions on longer-term issues.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thank you very much, Professor Maclennan, for joining us this morning. I have allowed the session to run a bit longer, because I felt that your answers were really useful to the committee and our work. I very much appreciate your coming and joining us this morning.

I am now going to suspend briefly to allow for a changeover of witnesses—

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Eilidh Keay, from the perspective of Living Rent, how do you assess the local and national responses to the housing emergency?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

I have a follow-up question. It is important to note that, under the Verity house agreement, the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities asked for less ring fencing, so it is quite difficult for the Scottish Government to say that it is going to direct spending on specific things in relation to enforcement and so on. How should the Scottish Government tackle that issue? We want to see different outcomes in the housing sector, but we want to honour things such as the Verity house agreement and the fiscal framework.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

We move to the theme of medium and longer-term issues, and I bring in Mark Griffin.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Emergency

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Ariane Burgess

Thanks very much for that. You have touched on an area that I was going to ask you about. You talked about system failure and said that that is to do with the central banks and the Treasury. I want to understand better how our housing is funded. We have different sectors. There is the public sector and the private sector, and public money is going in. We also understand that the Government used to have access to financial transactions money from the UK Government. How do we bring forward supply in different sectors, if that is what we want to do? I know that that is a big question, but it would be helpful if you could give a bit of a headline answer.