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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 September 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

I have a question on compliance and enforcement. I would like to explore that and understand how it is being considered in the IFMI programme.

Various information has come to us. For example, we have seen that a 2017 investigation by the European Court of Auditors identified less-dissuasive fisheries sanctions and greater levels of reoffending in Scotland than exist in other European countries, and we have been given anecdotal information indicating that certain activities that adversely impact marine species and habitats have continued to occur with few repercussions because of a lack of enforcement. At our 26 October round-table discussion on inshore fisheries, concerns were raised around the lack of enforcement of management in the marine protected areas—I know that there are plans for that, but we need to get on with it. Concerns were also raised about the lack of sufficient information and data to ensure transparency and accountability, and about the need for more enhanced sanctions for non-compliance. There is quite a lot in there. Will the IFMI process help in that regard? It is a bit embarrassing that Scotland has a higher level of reoffending than other European countries, is it not?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

You described the list of tools: spatial management, temporal management, licence and quota—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Like the cod box.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

So it is temporal and spatial.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

That would be very helpful.

At the beginning, you said that the “stakeholder landscape is difficult” and that there is polarisation, but there is something that everyone around the table has in common: they want to ensure that fisheries can operate over the long term. I invite you to look for that common ground—the Scottish Government is doing great work in other areas on a common-ground approach—by working through the FMAC group, RIFGs and so on to move to facilitation that helps people to get out of polarisation, because what is happening is just retraumatising people. Fishers are just trying to make a living, and ENGOs are trying to secure a long-term future for the people of Scotland that serves the public interest. I invite the marine directorate to step into the space to help to make that happen. If we keep saying that there is polarisation and that things are very difficult, that is what we will get. If we can support people to see what we have in common—our shared interest—that will help us to move forward in, I hope, a better way.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

I appreciate that, and it has been helpful to hear about the broader context and the other strands of work apart from the IFMI programme. However, as part of our budget work, the committee committed a session to the marine directorate’s financing. We are trying to help you. It seems to me that there are problems, because pieces of work start, then seem to stop. I want to frame the conversation in that context.

You are starting something new with the IFMI programme, but you did not even acknowledge the other pieces of work, which I had to tease out. I loved what Helen Downie said about the branches—I could visualise them—but let us include the other pieces of work, too, so that we understand everything that is going on. I know that things are complex, but we are smart thinkers and it is helpful if we can see the full picture so that we can help with the challenging situation in inshore waters.

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thank you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for clarifying that. We are 15 years on from the 2010 act. When are we going to see all the regional marine plans? I know that we have three, but people are saying that there should be more. Those three have stalled, and there is quite a degree of frustration around the fact that they are not being taken forward.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

I have a question before I ask my main question. We have talked a lot about the RIFGs and also FMAC—you set a lot of store by that process of engagement. When did you last meet the full FMAC group?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Inshore Fisheries Management Improvement Programme

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Ariane Burgess

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