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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 June 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

That would be great.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

My next question is about the response to the emergency. It is good to hear that Shelter has joined the board, because it said that, at some points, the Scottish Government’s response has been “lethargic” and that

“we are seeing business as usual repackaged with some new subheadings.”—[Official Report, Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee, 12 November 2024; c 24.]

How will the Government respond to the emergency with even more urgency?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

I will pick up on that question. Willie Coffey asked about three specific things. We visited Argyll and Bute Council and got a submission from it—that was more recent than nine months ago. The council is asking for advanced investment in infrastructure in order to de-risk projects, and it notes the need for councils to roll over any underspend in their areas. It also mentions the ability to use the programme funds for a wider range of housing, including temporary housing solutions. Those are three specific things that Argyll and Bute Council is struggling with, and it might be important to consider that. How can you address that and give the council flexibility? I imagine that it is not the only local authority with that kind of need.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

You mentioned affordability. Professor Ken Gibb has done some work on that and has come up with a report. Can you update us on that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

When you say that it is being looked at, are you asking local authorities to identify those commercial properties and look at their potential?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

Okay. Parliament declared the housing emergency eight months ago. How will we know when the housing emergency is over?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thank you for that—I might come back on voids a bit later.

I have a final question for now, on local housing emergencies, and then I will bring in Willie Coffey. Minister, in your opening statement, you said that you are taking a regional approach and supporting five local authorities specifically. I asked whether you are monitoring other authorities that might suddenly show up with more severe problems.

We have heard in committee that there is a nuanced approach, and when we went to Argyll and Bute, where we had a wonderful day with the council, we heard that the issue is not just affordable housing but mid-market housing, so the whole system needs to be looked at. I am interested in hearing how the Scottish Government is ensuring that its response to the housing emergency helps all councils with their specific needs and plans, and that good practice is shared among them.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

Thank you, that is helpful. I will pick up on two of those things and then bring in Willie Coffey. In relation to empty homes, you talked about lessons learned from Glasgow. In the past, when councils have come to the committee, there has been a reluctance around doing that kind of work and I am also aware of that reluctance from my work as an MSP. Since we called an emergency, however, the situation has changed. Have the lessons from Glasgow and other places been learned? For example, Perth and Kinross Council has been exemplary in its work on empty homes and empty properties. Have you been working with councils on that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

That sounds good. It has been good to set the scene and open up the issues around the housing emergency and how you are approaching it.

I will now bring in Willie Coffey on the theme of homelessness.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing Inquiry and Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Ariane Burgess

I will just add a footnote on other issues, such as transport and place making. We are trying to move away from thinking about housing as housing to thinking about making places. I am not going to let you respond to that, because I need to move on.

I have a few mopping-up questions to ask. One of the things that comes up in my mind when you talk about empty homes is what you are doing about empty flats above commercial properties that do not seem to make it on to the empty homes list. Are you factoring those in? Single people who live in big homes could move into smaller accommodation, and they might be happy to live in a town centre.