The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 20 February 2025
Gillian Mackay
The people’s panel recommended that the proposed human rights bill be introduced in this parliamentary session in order to support the implementation of the charter of rights for people affected by substance use. Why does the Scottish Government feel that the bill does not require to be introduced in this session in order to support the implementation of the charter, which was published in December last year? Crucially, outside of that, how will the Government ensure that the charter is implemented?
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 20 February 2025
Gillian Mackay
Good morning, everyone. You made two recommendations relating to people with lived experience in the statutory services workforce: to increase their number and to ensure that there is equitable pay and fair conditions for them. How should that be done to ensure that it is not the tick-box exercise that you speak about in your report?
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 20 February 2025
Gillian Mackay
You mentioned stigma in your response to Jeremy Balfour. In the evidence that you took, did the people who you spoke to talk about specific mechanisms for meaningfully involving lived and living experience voices not only to tackle stigma but to do more of the service planning?
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)
Meeting date: 20 February 2025
Gillian Mackay
Good morning. The people’s panel made two recommendations under the theme of participation, rights and lived experience, which related to lived experience in the workforce. What is the Scottish Government doing to ensure that employing people with lived experience is not simply a tick-box exercise and that there is equitable pay, fair working conditions and good support for that group, in comparison with what is available for equivalent public sector workers?
Meeting of the Parliament [Draft]
Meeting date: 19 February 2025
Gillian Mackay
The report from The Promise Scotland says that
“some people, some organisations, and some systems are not yet doing enough, and this risks the country as a whole failing to deliver the promise.”
What is the minister doing with the organisations that are not doing enough, and across portfolios, to ensure that individual intransigence in organisations is not risking the Promise as a whole?
Meeting of the Parliament
Meeting date: 18 February 2025
Gillian Mackay
I thank the First Minister for providing advance sight of his statement and I welcome the £25 million that has been announced.
However, the closure still poses the risk of a huge potential loss of skilled workers from the area, and there is still concern about the impact on small businesses in Grangemouth that are reliant on the refinery workers for their business. Can the First Minister outline what extra support could be made available to support some of those small businesses as they adapt? Will the Government consider proposals for the use of the £25 million for projects at sites around Grangemouth that are outside the Ineos compound?
Meeting of the Parliament
Meeting date: 18 February 2025
Gillian Mackay
Throughout the debate, many members have mentioned the various sectors of the economy that will be impacted. I will leave the intricacies of elasticity, among other things, to Liz Smith and Michelle Thomson, but I believe that the immediate impact on the health and social care sector is particularly stark and warrants highlighting.
As has been mentioned throughout the debate, the Labour UK Government’s employer national insurance contribution changes represent a substantial financial and operational burden for third sector organisations and social care providers across Scotland. Workforce costs already account for the majority of expenditure in the sectors, which leaves little room for them to contend with those further increases.
The rise in employer national insurance contributions is especially unsustainable for smaller providers and for those with high staffing requirements, many of which are already operating on extremely tight margins. The direct results of the changes could lead to real risks of service reductions, staff lay-offs and closures, which will further jeopardise the care sector, which so many people rely on and which we should all be fighting to fund better and stabilise.
Scottish Care’s analysis points to the fact that the changes to national insurance rates that were announced in the UK budget will create additional financial burdens on independent care providers in a dangerous and inequitable—which is not easy to say at this point on a Monday—way. Scottish Care has outlined the potential for care homes to close as a result of the change. The people in those care homes still need care and places have to be found, which is putting more burden on an already stretched system. If care homes close, it will cost the public sector more to find places for those people.
Labour trumpets its increased block grant to the Scottish Government, but what use will that be if we end up having to find emergency care places as a result of the decision? The Health and Social Care Alliance Scotland—the ALLIANCE—alongside other third sector organisations has raised serious concerns about the financial strain that is being caused by increased national insurance contributions. It has signed a joint letter to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, following a survey of its organisation members that found that 85 per cent are worried about the additional costs, with 62 per cent fearing service cuts, 82 per cent being concerned about financial stability and 71 per cent expecting recruitment and retention challenges. Many have called for exemptions or increased funding to offset that burden.
Meanwhile, data from the Scottish Council for Voluntary Organisations estimates that the change will cost third sector organisations in Scotland £75 million next year, which further threatens the sector’s ability to deliver essential services.
The list does not stop there. The Coalition of Care and Support Providers in Scotland expects not-for-profit providers within its community alone to face an additional £30 million bill next year, due to the rate increase and threshold reduction—costs that it cannot afford and has no clear way to cover. In recognising the urgent need for action, the CCPS has also written to the chancellor, calling for full exemption for public service social care providers. It warns that, without that, the consequences will be devastating. That could very soon lead to the loss of vital community-based support, which will increase the strain on the NHS and the Scottish Prison Service and put a heavier burden on unpaid carers, many of whom already struggle to balance employment with wellbeing.
The Labour UK Government’s failure to recognise and account for the impacts of the changes on social care and third sector organisations raises further concerns about the lack of value being placed on social care, and about awareness of the perilous state of the sustainability of the sector. The Nuffield Trust estimates that the employer NIC changes will cost independent sector social care employers in the region of an additional £940 million in 2025-26. It also points out, most notably, that the Government seemed to be aware of those consequences.
An initial table that was published by the OBR on its economic and fiscal outlook included £5.5 billion provision for compensation for ENICs for public sector employers and adult social care. However, that was later revised through the removal of any mention of adult social care and reduction of the allocation to £4.7 billion. Officials have not yet explained the £800 million reduction, but, based on independent calculations, it appears to reflect an estimate of the ENICs change’s financial impact on adult social care. That strongly suggests that the UK Government understands the sector’s vulnerability but has chosen not to provide the necessary support. Alarmingly, major adult care provider failure is listed in the national risk register, which warns that such failures could severely disrupt care for those who depend on it. Without urgent intervention to stabilise the sector now, it could be decimated.
Many members have mentioned this afternoon how hopeful they were at the end of the Conservative Government and their disappointment at the mess that the decision has caused. Alex Cole-Hamilton, Lorna Slater and Kevin Stewart, among others, mentioned the other options that are available to the UK Government, none of which it seems even to have considered.
A few members mentioned the impact on hospices. Given the charitable nature of hospices, we are passing a burden back to them to raise money from people in their communities to plug the gap. That points to the effects that many members have warned of beyond the immediate rise in ENICs. Their needing to raise more money to plug gaps in services is a horrendous situation for charities to be in.
Today, the Scottish Greens call on the UK Government to, at the very least, fully fund the increase in employer national insurance contributions for commissioned services and arm’s-length external organisations. The additional costs will place significant strain on vital services and the organisations that deliver them, many of which are already operating under extremely challenging financial and operational conditions. Those providers have an unsustainable burden, with many already grappling with the consequences of having very little funding and of Brexit and its devastating effect on staff retention.
If the additional cost of ENICs is not addressed, it not only will compromise the ability of those organisations to maintain the services that people rely on but could also lead to cuts, closures and reduced quality of services. The consequences of that would be far reaching, impacting on the most vulnerable members of society and further exacerbating existing challenges in our health and social care systems. The UK Government must act now to ensure that those organisations are fully supported, thereby safeguarding the essential services that contribute to the wellbeing and support of our communities.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 6 February 2025
Gillian Mackay
Professor Cardwell, I will come to you first on this question. Last week, we had feedback from NUS Scotland on the difficulties of timing with some application processes for Turing and for the Scottish education exchange programme, or SEEP. Are you receiving similar feedback from students who might be looking to access those schemes? From an academic’s point of view, what else would you like to be incorporated into those schemes to make the process as easy as possible for students, academics and those supporting the students, so that we get as many people as possible to do exchanges?
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 6 February 2025
Gillian Mackay
Is there anything else, from an academic’s point of view, that you would like to see in the current schemes to facilitate movement among early-career researchers and to enable academics to do teaching exchanges?
Meeting of the Parliament
Meeting date: 6 February 2025
Gillian Mackay
I begin, as others have done, by acknowledging the deep and often unspoken grief that miscarriage and stillbirth bring to women and their families. I thank midwives and their teams across Scotland.
Despite it being a relatively common experience, miscarriage can be profoundly isolating, especially for those without the support that they need. The emotional, physical and psychological toll can be immense yet, too often, those affected suffer in silence. There is a reluctance from many to talk about their loss, especially when that loss is early. I am sure that many members have spoken to family and friends who have had a throwaway comment such as, “At least it was early,” which definitely prevents people from being truly able to speak about their loss.
Good miscarriage care goes beyond medical treatment. It requires compassion, clear information and a shift in societal attitudes to ensure that no one faces the experience alone. I welcome the opportunity to discuss what Scotland is doing well and what we must do better to improve care and support for those affected. I thank the minister for securing the debate.
Scotland has taken important steps in improving miscarriage care, recognising that compassionate support is just as vital as clinical treatment. The national bereavement care pathway has provided much-needed guidance to healthcare professionals, helping to ensure that those experiencing pregnancy loss receive sensitive and appropriate care. That initiative has encouraged a more standardised approach in reducing disparities in how miscarriage care is delivered across the country. The pathways have been developed together with several pregnancy and baby-loss charities, royal colleges, a wide range of healthcare experts and an advisory group of women and men who have experienced loss.
The funding by the Scottish Government is vital, and it is delivered in partnership with Sands. The important role that Sands plays in supporting families affected by miscarriage and baby loss cannot be overstated. In my Central Scotland region, its local support groups cover the Forth Valley and Lanarkshire health boards and provide a safe and understanding space for bereaved parents to share their experiences and to receive comfort from those who truly understand their grief. Those groups, which are run by dedicated volunteers, offer peer support meetings, remembrance events and advice to help families to navigate the tricky situations that they are in. The presence of such compassionate support networks is invaluable in ensuring that no one feels alone in their grief.
Although it is undoubtable that progress has been and continues to be made, there is still much work to do. Too many women report feeling dismissed or unsupported when experiencing miscarriage, particularly in early pregnancy. We must do more to ensure that healthcare professionals receive adequate training to provide informed care. Access to miscarriage support remains inconsistent across Scotland. In some areas, women are left waiting for treatment or are forced to navigate a fragmented system. Steps have been taken to mitigate that, but we must double down on efforts to ensure that every woman, regardless of where she lives, can access timely and comprehensive care.
As has been mentioned, the psychological impact cannot be overstated. Although some support services exist, many women and families struggle to find the counselling and mental health support that they need. We must strengthen links between miscarriage care and mental health services. Without accurate and comprehensive data, it is difficult to identify gaps in care. I acknowledge what the minister has already said on that. We must continue to listen to those with lived experience and to ensure that their experiences shape improvements.
Although we have made significant strides in supporting those affected by miscarriage and stillbirth, the effort is far from over. It is imperative that we continue to work collectively with healthcare providers, policy makers, employers and society at large to break the stigma surrounding pregnancy loss. It is only by ensuring access to consistent, compassionate and high-quality care that we can provide solace to those families who grieve.
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