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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 September 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Stephen Kerr

The economic impact assessment will no doubt be holistic and consider multiple possible outcomes to the situation that we are in, but I think that we can all agree that, as the convener mentioned earlier, there is little doubt that the refinery is closing.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Stephen Kerr

Irrespective of the timing, a holistic economic impact assessment would consider all the factors. With regard to the path ahead, it is critical that we understand what will happen because of the closure of the refinery, whenever it happens for definite. Who is doing this piece of work and what is the estimate of when it will be available for all of us and for the people of the area, so that we can begin to get our head around the nature, extent and scope of the challenge, which undoubtedly it is?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Stephen Kerr

All right. I accept what you are saying. Can I quickly ask some very specific questions?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Stephen Kerr

It is reported that some of the repair and maintenance work that is connected with the refinery has been stepped down, which has led to an increase in breakdowns, including of the hydrocracker unit. What is your response to that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Stephen Kerr

What will be the impact of the refinery closure on Ineos O & P, which is also loss-making—I think that it lost £300 million last year—and the viability of that operation, given that there is input from the refinery to the processes of Ineos O & P?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Stephen Kerr

Do you accept that the narrative around the closure is that hundreds of jobs—potentially thousands—will be lost, with a devastating impact on the Grangemouth and Falkirk area? Do you accept that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Stephen Kerr

What is your modelled impact on the supply chain of a potential closure?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Stephen Kerr

This is the quote:

“We want to keep jobs in manufacturing here but Labour hasn’t understood that we need supplies. I need ... gas, ready, cheap and available as a feedstock.”

Is that wrong?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Stephen Kerr

There is one last question from me about the timeline. When did you notify the UK and Scottish Governments? I have been involved in the closure of plants. Such things do not happen just in the few days before one makes an announcement; they take months of intricate planning. I think that it is slightly disingenuous to suggest that the decision was made and announced within a few days, because it was obviously a long time in planning. When did you inform the UK and Scottish Governments of your intention to make an announcement on that day?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Stephen Kerr

That was not the first that they knew about it, though.