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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 February 2026
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Stephen Kerr

Who is accountable to the cabinet secretary? It is the chair and the board.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Stephen Kerr

With the approval of ministers.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Stephen Kerr

But not the chair—why? Fiona Hyslop did.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Stephen Kerr

No, he did not. He never met the chair.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Stephen Kerr

In 2022.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Stephen Kerr

Okay. I have loads of questions that I will write to the committee and to the cabinet secretary with, because they are important questions that we were never going have time to go through, given the way that we go on in this committee.

I will ask specifically about the evidence that was given to the committee by Audit Scotland last week. The Auditor General was dissatisfied—it would be more than fair to say—with the current arrangements in respect of the accountable officer. I could give you the extended quote if you want, but I am not sure that it would be helpful. It is in column 40 of the Official Report of the committee’s meeting last week. He said that the idea that you can separate out the accountable officer’s responsibilities so that the person who is supposed to be the accountable officer does some of them and other people do the rest of them is just not right, not acceptable and not sustainable. Last Thursday, he questioned why nothing had happened on the part of the Scottish Government since 17 December, when the section 22 report was published.

I wish that we had time, because I would have liked to go through the extensive evidence that we received from the board of HES at a previous meeting of the committee, when it said that it has nothing to do with who the accountable officer is and that that is a Scottish Government issue. Bottom line: why have you done nothing since 17 December to appoint an accountable officer?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Stephen Kerr

Because of the grievance.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Stephen Kerr

I will stay with Ricky Bell—I think that I got your name right. Could you confirm that the settlement for this year does not change the trajectory whereby there has been a lot of encroachment into the non-statutory spending areas such as culture? You do not anticipate that this year’s settlement will allow councils to increase culture spending. I invite you to answer that with your COSLA hat on.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Stephen Kerr

You are relaying to us the vibe that culture is just one area that will not see any upside. In fact—reading between the lines of what you have said—it might see downsides.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 29 January 2026

Stephen Kerr

It sounds as though there is a plea there for a bit more flexibility in the funding model that you operate by in relation to the direct funding awards from the Scottish Government.