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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 November 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

So, you and the board were saying to the Scottish Government, “We do not have an accountable officer. We understand the regulation and the requirement. We do not have one. Will you give us one?” Was that your request?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

All right. So, has there not been such a period?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

The papers that we were given in advance of this committee reveal some extraordinary things that were not previously in the public domain. For example, it is revealed that on 2 June 2025, a set of documentation entitled, in our papers, “HES Corruption”—numbered volume 1 and so forth—was circulated to ministers, the board and Audit Scotland. Another set of these “HES Corruption” volumes was circulated as recently as last month. In June, the Scottish Government asked the board to investigate the allegations. Did that investigation happen to your knowledge?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

When did it start?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

That is why I am asking. The question is highly relevant in respect of an organisation that is in receipt of over £70 million of public money. Is there an accountable officer? I am trying to ascertain whether there was indeed an accountable officer in HES during the period when the chief executive officer, I think it is recognised—without going into personal details—was not present at work. Andrew Davis, was there an accountable officer in HES during that time?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

All right. Is it the responsibility of the cabinet secretary to see that there is an accountable officer in HES?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

Yes, of course.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Historic Environment Scotland

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

But a recommendation was made on the urgent need for a review of culture as part of the independent investigator’s recommendations.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Sporting Events of National Interest

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

What about collaboration? You have presumably talked to the FA, the Welsh FA, and other football associations in Britain and Ireland about some collaboration. Is there anything there? There is a lot of commercial muscle in those football associations, including, of course, those in Ireland.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Sporting Events of National Interest

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Stephen Kerr

It would give you more control.