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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 November 2021
Stephen Kerr
In our main item of business, the committee will take evidence from two panels of witnesses on the impact of Covid-19 on children and young people with additional support needs and care experienced young people.
I am delighted to welcome our first panel of witnesses: Bruce Adamson, the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland, who joins us in the room; Stephen McGhee, the managing director of Spark of Genius, is representing the Scottish Children’s Services Coalition and joins us virtually; and Linda O’Neill, education lead at the Centre for Excellence for Children’s Care and Protection, is also here virtually. We welcome all three witnesses and thank them for the time that they will spend with us. We hope to make good use of the next hour. I turn immediately to Bob Doris to lead us in the first set of questions.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 November 2021
Stephen Kerr
I would appreciate everyone being very succinct when asking and answering questions, please, because we are very quickly running out of time.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 November 2021
Stephen Kerr
We are experiencing the limitations of a hybrid meeting this morning, because you are coming in and out of contact, but I think that we got the gist of what you said.
If I am not mistaken, James Dornan would like to come back in. We will then go to Michael Marra.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 November 2021
Stephen Kerr
Ask your next question, then I would like to come in. Stephanie Callaghan also wants to come in.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 November 2021
Stephen Kerr
Kaukab Stewart has a question that fits in with that.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 November 2021
Stephen Kerr
The evidence that we have been presented with includes the statistic that the number of ASN teachers in publicly funded schools fell by 578 in the period from 2012 to 2020, which was a 15.6 per cent reduction. Surely that must have some impact on the nature of the support that is offered.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 November 2021
Stephen Kerr
With regard to what you have just said, do you make any distinction between support at primary school and support at secondary school?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 November 2021
Stephen Kerr
Welcome back. We continue our evidence taking on the impact of Covid-19 on children and young people with additional support needs and care-experienced young people.
I am delighted to welcome our second panel of witnesses. Laurie Black, who is the convener of the ASN committee for the Educational Institute of Scotland—the EIS—joins us virtually. Ramon Hutchingson, who is the co-ordinator for the autism resources co-ordination hub—ARCH—in South Lanarkshire is also with us virtually. We are also delighted to have with us in person Sally Cavers, who is head of inclusion for Children in Scotland. We really appreciate you giving us an hour of your time to give evidence and share your experience and findings.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 November 2021
Stephen Kerr
As I suspected, we will probably not get through all my colleagues’ questions, but I promise those who are not called that they will be the first to be called in the next evidence session.
For what I think will be the last question, I call Meghan Gallacher.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 17 November 2021
Stephen Kerr
Laurie, can you repeat that last sentence? We did not hear it.