The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
All Official Reports of meetings in the Debating Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.
All Official Reports of public meetings of committees.
Displaying 3402 contributions
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Stephen Kerr
Can you put your hand on your heart, cabinet secretary, and tell us that we will never have a Government that will misuse the legislation?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Stephen Kerr
Are you satisfied with your working relationships with ministers and officials at the DWP?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Stephen Kerr
So, you are satisfied. I call Michael Marra.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Stephen Kerr
Thank you, minister. I invite questions or comments from members. I understand that the change is driven solely by the increase in the national living wage—is that right?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Stephen Kerr
Thank you. I see that Willie Rennie wants to comment.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Stephen Kerr
Well, this is what Megan Farr said last week:
“Political situations in countries can change, and it is a risk to have sitting on the books legislation that interferes with human rights to such an extent and that could be inappropriately used at a future date by a future Government.”—[Official Report, Education, Children and Young People Committee, 2 March 2022; c 30.]
You cannot tell me that that is not going to happen, in the same way as you are telling us that we cannot answer your question.
I will bring in Fergus Ewing.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Stephen Kerr
I turn to Stephanie Callaghan for the final question.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Stephen Kerr
Our next item of business is an evidence session on the Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill at stage 1.
I welcome Shirley-Anne Somerville, Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills, and her officials from the Scottish Government, of whom we have quite a gathering today. I welcome to the committee room Sam Anson, deputy director, Covid education strategy and recovery, and Craig Robertson, interim deputy director, advanced learning and science directorate, Covid response. Joining us online are Andy Drought, deputy director for workforce and infrastructure in the learning directorate; Clare Morley, school funding, infrastructure and organisation unit head; Jerry O’Connell, school organisation team leader; Greig Walker, Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) Bill team leader; and Nico McKenzie-Juetten, a lawyer in the Scottish Government legal directorate—I apologise if I have mispronounced your name, Nico. I welcome all our witnesses and thank them for their time.
I invite the cabinet secretary to make a short opening statement. We will then move to questions.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Stephen Kerr
Very short, please.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 9 March 2022
Stephen Kerr
Did you grab the point that Willie Rennie was making? It is admirable that we are talking about this kind of stuff right now, but it is not necessary for it to be in the legislation. It can all be ready on a shelf, and we can pull it down off that shelf.
We are not talking about the situation that occurred in March 2020; we are talking about a different situation. We are talking about using the benefit of the experiences that we have all lived through to make law that is appropriate in the moment of a crisis. However, you are putting the measures that currently exist into permanency, which surely is not sensible, given the criteria of the human rights discussion that we are having.